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Steve Smith
sasmyth at swcp.com
Fri Oct 9 23:39:50 EDT 2020
I agree that the illusion of there being only the single axis of
Left/Right is a travesty.
I also intuit that my own preferences for ranked-choice-voting to *allow
in* more dimensions may be naive in some way I don't fully apprehend.
I'd love for you (and others) here to explore the paradoxes and
inconsistencies implied in all of this.
On 10/9/20 9:18 PM, Eric Charles wrote:
> --- reconfigure (expand) it from 9 to 15 but
> *balance* the Left/Right ideology (I think he proposed 5/5) and then
> ---------
>
> Note that one thing both parties agree on is that we should conceive
> politics as utterly and completely a choice between the two of them.
> God forbid that we conceive of judges using any other dimensions. In
> fact, let's enshrine it in law that we must forever focus on exactly
> whether we have a "balance" of "left" and "right". Ugh!
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 4:48 PM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com
> <mailto:sasmyth at swcp.com>> wrote:
>
> Ha! I refer to the last bit as "ok fine, TWIST my drinking arm!" when
> someone offers to buy me one... the only one to twists my
> drinking arm
> this last six months has been Mary... and Maybe Stephen and his circle
> on "ZoomGrappaNight".
>
> I don't like the language around "packing the court". I don't think
> "reconfiguring the court" is the same as "packing the court".
> Clearly,
> the (not so) loyal opposition to the Dems *would* pack the
> court... add
> 6 more justices and make sure they are ALL conservative leaners.
> Pete
> Buttegeig was the first to speak of this in my earshot, and HIS
> version
> sounded pretty reasonable... reconfigure (expand) it from 9 to
> 15 but
> *balance* the Left/Right ideology (I think he proposed 5/5) and then
> leave it to the Justices themselves to fill the remaining 5 (through
> some arcane process?). What the Republicans have been building
> up to
> for decades is "packing the courts".
>
> Checks and balances are tricky, as is depending on social norms and
> standards, but I think it might be "as good as it gets", at least for
> the time being.
>
> - Steve
>
>
> On 10/8/20 1:36 PM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote:
> > Ha! That was the essence of one of the 538 panel member's
> phrasing suggestion for Kamala Harris in response to Pence's
> question about packing SCOTUS. The elaborated version was:
> "Because confirming Barrett, NOW, is such a horribly wrong thing
> to do, we have no choice BUT to pack the court." ... I.e. now look
> what you made me do. That was my dad's favorite phrase to justify
> whatever abuse he chose to mete out that day. He once ran over my
> bicycle with his truck. I *made* him run over my bike because I
> left it laying in the driveway. It's a running joke with my fellow
> drinkers who *regularly* FORCE me to drink more than I should.
> There is no free will. I live to serve.
> >
> > On 10/8/20 11:28 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> >> Look what you made me do,
>
>
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