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[Steve Smith]

I agree that the illusion of there being only the single axis of
Left/Right is a travesty.  

I also intuit that my own preferences for ranked-choice-voting to *allow
in* more dimensions may be naive in some way I don't fully apprehend.

I'd love for you (and others) here to explore the paradoxes and
inconsistencies implied in all of this.

On 10/9/20 9:18 PM, Eric Charles wrote:
> --- reconfigure (expand) it from 9 to 15 but
> *balance* the Left/Right ideology (I think he proposed 5/5) and then 
> ---------
>
> Note that one thing both parties agree on is that we should conceive
> politics as utterly and completely a choice between the two of them.
> God forbid that we conceive of judges using any other dimensions. In
> fact, let's enshrine it in law that we must forever focus on exactly
> whether we have a "balance" of "left" and "right". Ugh!
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 4:48 PM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com
> <mailto:sasmyth at swcp.com>> wrote:
>
>     Ha!  I refer to the last bit as "ok fine, TWIST my drinking arm!" when
>     someone offers to buy me one...   the only one to twists my
>     drinking arm
>     this last six months has been Mary... and Maybe Stephen and his circle
>     on "ZoomGrappaNight".
>
>     I don't like the language around "packing the court".   I don't think
>     "reconfiguring the court" is the same as "packing the court".  
>     Clearly,
>     the (not so) loyal opposition to the Dems *would* pack the
>     court...  add
>     6 more justices and make sure they are ALL conservative leaners.  
>     Pete
>     Buttegeig was the first to speak of this in my earshot, and HIS
>     version
>     sounded pretty reasonable...   reconfigure (expand) it from 9 to
>     15 but
>     *balance* the Left/Right ideology (I think he proposed 5/5) and then
>     leave it to the Justices themselves to fill the remaining 5 (through
>     some arcane process?).    What the Republicans have been building
>     up to
>     for decades is "packing the courts".   
>
>     Checks and balances are tricky, as is depending on social norms and
>     standards, but I think it might be "as good as it gets", at least for
>     the time being.
>
>     - Steve
>
>
>     On 10/8/20 1:36 PM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote:
>     > Ha! That was the essence of one of the 538 panel member's
>     phrasing suggestion for Kamala Harris in response to Pence's
>     question about packing SCOTUS. The elaborated version was:
>     "Because confirming Barrett, NOW, is such a horribly wrong thing
>     to do, we have no choice BUT to pack the court." ... I.e. now look
>     what you made me do. That was my dad's favorite phrase to justify
>     whatever abuse he chose to mete out that day. He once ran over my
>     bicycle with his truck. I *made* him run over my bike because I
>     left it laying in the driveway. It's a running joke with my fellow
>     drinkers who *regularly* FORCE me to drink more than I should.
>     There is no free will. I live to serve.
>     >
>     > On 10/8/20 11:28 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>     >> Look what you made me do,
>
>
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