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Steve Smith
sasmyth at swcp.com
Sat Oct 10 02:02:08 EDT 2020
> It is the first principal component..
Agreed, but is that a feature of our winner-takes-all voting system?
Do we *like* having our lives/livelihood reduced to such? Do we have a
choice in letting this projection of a "properly complex
life/value-system" onto a pair of polarized political parties?
>
>> On Oct 9, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree that the illusion of there being only the single axis of
>> Left/Right is a travesty.
>>
>> I also intuit that my own preferences for ranked-choice-voting to
>> *allow in* more dimensions may be naive in some way I don't fully
>> apprehend.
>>
>> I'd love for you (and others) here to explore the paradoxes and
>> inconsistencies implied in all of this.
>>
>> On 10/9/20 9:18 PM, Eric Charles wrote:
>>> --- reconfigure (expand) it from 9 to 15 but
>>> *balance* the Left/Right ideology (I think he proposed 5/5) and
>>> then ---------
>>>
>>> Note that one thing both parties agree on is that we should conceive
>>> politics as utterly and completely a choice between the two of them.
>>> God forbid that we conceive of judges using any other dimensions. In
>>> fact, let's enshrine it in law that we must forever focus on exactly
>>> whether we have a "balance" of "left" and "right". Ugh!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 4:48 PM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com
>>> <mailto:sasmyth at swcp.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ha! I refer to the last bit as "ok fine, TWIST my drinking
>>> arm!" when
>>> someone offers to buy me one... the only one to twists my
>>> drinking arm
>>> this last six months has been Mary... and Maybe Stephen and his
>>> circle
>>> on "ZoomGrappaNight".
>>>
>>> I don't like the language around "packing the court". I don't
>>> think
>>> "reconfiguring the court" is the same as "packing the court".
>>> Clearly,
>>> the (not so) loyal opposition to the Dems *would* pack the
>>> court... add
>>> 6 more justices and make sure they are ALL conservative
>>> leaners. Pete
>>> Buttegeig was the first to speak of this in my earshot, and HIS
>>> version
>>> sounded pretty reasonable... reconfigure (expand) it from 9 to
>>> 15 but
>>> *balance* the Left/Right ideology (I think he proposed 5/5) and then
>>> leave it to the Justices themselves to fill the remaining 5 (through
>>> some arcane process?). What the Republicans have been
>>> building up to
>>> for decades is "packing the courts".
>>>
>>> Checks and balances are tricky, as is depending on social norms and
>>> standards, but I think it might be "as good as it gets", at
>>> least for
>>> the time being.
>>>
>>> - Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/8/20 1:36 PM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote:
>>> > Ha! That was the essence of one of the 538 panel member's
>>> phrasing suggestion for Kamala Harris in response to Pence's
>>> question about packing SCOTUS. The elaborated version was:
>>> "Because confirming Barrett, NOW, is such a horribly wrong thing
>>> to do, we have no choice BUT to pack the court." ... I.e. now
>>> look what you made me do. That was my dad's favorite phrase to
>>> justify whatever abuse he chose to mete out that day. He once
>>> ran over my bicycle with his truck. I *made* him run over my
>>> bike because I left it laying in the driveway. It's a running
>>> joke with my fellow drinkers who *regularly* FORCE me to drink
>>> more than I should. There is no free will. I live to serve.
>>> >
>>> > On 10/8/20 11:28 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>>> >> Look what you made me do,
>>>
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