[FRIAM] Development of political order

Marcus Daniels marcus at snoutfarm.com
Fri Aug 20 11:58:21 EDT 2021


Now that they have taken government buildings and so forth, there will be something to bomb again if they act up.   We’re clearly better at breaking things than fixing them.

From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 8:26 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Development of political order

Marcus, the Taliban were the biggest recipients of American largesse during the war, along with the major defense contractors (military stocks outperformed the stock market by 58%).  We put so much money into Afghanistan over 20 years (at least $1trillion) the country couldn't absorb it all, and so it migrated into the hands of a corrupt Afghan government, the warlords, and also the Taliban.  The Taliban had a LOT of resources thanks to us.  Craig Whitlock's book, "The Afghanistan Papers" is just out explaining all this.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 6:42 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com<mailto:marcus at snoutfarm.com>> wrote:
Robotics seem inevitable for keeping the pressure on for this sort of situation.

https://youtu.be/j0z4FweCy4M



On Aug 20, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net<mailto:jofr at cas-group.net>> wrote:

Why have the Taliban been able to conquer Afghanistan so quickly, although they were hopelessly outgunned for almost 20 years as the article in the Atlantic describes ("Brother... it's too cold to jihad") ? It seems as if Afghanistan exists only in two stable modes: tribalism where the country is divided among clans and tribes, and radical Islamism in form of Taliban rulership. Both are among the oldest forms of political order forms according to Francis Fukuyama (who wrote two books about the development of political order which I am currently reading)
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/what-i-learned-while-eavesdropping-on-the-taliban/619807/

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