[FRIAM] Steaming services

Sun Aug 22 16:45:41 EDT 2021

My last three requests were:

Serenata Huasteca

Mozart

And a song Dylan wrote that someone said was a confession about his
seducing a young girl.

WRT the last, I wanted to see why he said that.  I suspect that the
intersection of my requests and the Top 50 is empty.

Frank

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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 1:41 PM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> He *hates* Alexa, Amazon, and especially Amazon Music.
>
>
> What is there to hate?  They just play music you request.
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> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
>
> 505 670-9918
> Santa Fe, NM
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 12:47 PM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
>
>> On 8/22/21 8:28 AM, ⛧ glen wrote:
>>
>> It does both, perhaps counterintuitively. I'd argue it facilitates traffic between demes/cliques, but inhibits the content of demes/cliques.
>>
>>
>> I am a sucker for local AM radio when traveling... to put my finger on
>> the pulse of the locals, as it were.  What music they listen to, what their
>> news-of-choice leans toward, and what they are buying/selling/trading with
>> one another.  "If you can hear this station, what you hear *might* be
>> relevant to you *right now*"
>>
>> When internet radio stations started popping up (KTAO in Taos being an
>> early adopter), I found myself sampling these local stations around the
>> world... one in particular being in Australia (forget the call sign/town)
>> and having a strong familiarity to the myriad country AND western stations
>> up and down the rockies and out into the plains of the US West, but with an
>> Aussie accented DJ of course.    Unfortunately it didn't replicate the
>> experience because I was patently NOT there... I could NOT plan a detour to
>> catch the local farmer's market or check out a local joint (where there
>> burgers would have pineapple and plum sauce instead of pickles and
>> ketchup)...   But what I was most struck by was that they were playing 95%
>> American Mainstream (C&W) music and referencing OUR icons of music
>> deeply/exclusively.   Only occasionally would I catch a "local" artist
>> (Australeonesia?)  I felt simultaneously expanded and constrained.
>>
>> When I moved to a small city/big town on the border (DouglasAZ/Agua
>> Prieta SA) our first neighbors were a Mexican American family who were one
>> of the local bands that played every venue, mostly rock but with their own
>> ranchera stylization often.   They would sit around evenings playing a wide
>> range of music, including the father, a sister and a younger brother (maybe
>> 5? too young to participate in the public events).   We moved away from
>> that house within 6 months but I continued to hear them the whole 8 years I
>> lived in that town, they probably played at both of my proms and any other
>> public musical event I might have attended.   What never crossed my mind
>> (until now) was that for the 4 years I was a Disc Jockey, I never heard
>> them play on air, nor was I motivated/inclined to seek them out.  Why not?
>> Linda Ronstadt (100 miles away) was hitting it big from similar roots, why
>> not them?   I guess because they weren't on the Billboard Top 100 charts
>> they sent us every month, telling us what was hot and what was not?  They
>> had no route to get known beyond the local bars and public venues.
>>
>> Both of my daughters partnered with aspiring musicians as they came of
>> age.  There have been several bands involved and those partners even
>> occasionally found time to make music together (though never recorded
>> together).   These bands never made it beyond local recognition...   "Billy
>> and the Belmonts", "Oktober People", "Weapons of Mass Destruction" all come
>> to mind.   And yet one of them was going on a self-promoted tour of the
>> west when we were in Berkeley, CA for a year and in fact, totally by
>> coincidence, had gotten booked at an Irish Pub ("Starry Plough") just a
>> short walk from our apartment (actually probably the closest watering hole
>> to our apartment).   It was just off Telegraph, right on the Oakland border
>> (as was our back fence)...  in what other world (pre/sans Internet) could a
>> band like that find a pub like that?   While Terry (daughter's now husband)
>> had the resources (as a Technical College instructor) to own a van, mix
>> their own music on Garage Band, cut their own CDs and print their own
>> T-shirts (aka Merch)...  They would have been sleeping in his van the whole
>> way (instead of being gifted couch-stays by their nascent mySpace fan base)
>> and would have had to make a LOT of phone calls and snail-mail inquiries to
>> secure the venues they were able to do online through the digital social
>> networks circa 2005.   Their music was out there for sampling on MySpace
>> and while all that (the bands as well as MySpace) are all defunct and
>> rotting away in digital history, it made it a lot further than I think it
>> could have in the days of vinyl or cassette tape.   I do still have CDs of
>> their music and it is ripped to my hard drive as well... but can't find any
>> of it to speak of online 8 years after dissolution.  My t-shirts are all
>> rags now, they were made on budget blanks I'm sure.
>>
>> Terry (of WMD/Belmont fame) is now the bass player for Queen Chief in
>> Portland OR.  Their preferred streaming platform seems to be bandcamp.com
>> which seems to be *trying* to provide a direct route from artist to
>> audience, but unspurprisingly Alexa doesn't support Bandcamp and while they
>> also stream on Spotify, my understanding of that service is that they won't
>> see any significant income from that stream.   I don't believe any of the
>> band members depends on the band for a significant source of income, Terry
>> certainly doesn't, though it may support his recording/instrument
>> collecting habits somewhat.
>>
>> They just released a couple of singles this year.  A stoner rock
>> rendition of Hank William's classic "Kaw-Liga
>> <https://open.spotify.com/album/2U88jwoi9ZKRHjTgG1YIDu>" and their own In
>> my Eyes <https://open.spotify.com/album/1oaVT5IS8jIm6xpJ2RlH2o>.
>>
>> Spotify refers me right away to bands (I presume equally
>> struggling/indie) like King Black Acid, Royal Fuz, RZRS, and Hurriah.
>> While I like QC's lyrics and musical "style" it is all too high energy for
>> my old ears/soul, so I tend to listen to a new track or album a few times
>> when it comes out, but don't have it ripped to my car sound system nor pull
>> it up regularly (though In my Eyes is thumping/chanting away in the
>> background as I type this)...
>>
>> Mary's son (who edits bills for the TX legislature by day) is also a
>> drummer in an indie band in Austin and they eschew streaming in favor of
>> the (semi) classic medium of CDs and live-shows.   They gently dissolved
>> last year after a 10 year run...  the quarterly live-shows in various
>> dive-bars were what was keeping them going (emotionally/creatively?)...
>> and they also have all hit middle age.
>>
>> Digital/Online/Streaming has definitely changed the fitness landscape for
>> aspiring independent artists and for music buffs.  Mary's son is a total
>> movie/music buff and shares his listening time between classic vinyl and
>> the flood of new music coming to him over his own social networks from
>> friends of friends of friends who are independent singer-songwriters/bands.
>>
>> I like Glen's gesture toward analyzing this in terms of network/graph
>> models...  I think the data is out there for anyone to gather/study up to a
>> point.   Josh's (Mary's son) collection of vinyl and hand-cut CDs probably
>> is hidden for the most part from any database, though he *might* not be
>> astute enough to turn off Google/Android's "what music is playing right
>> now" service... maybe what he listens to is being analyzed on some Google
>> Brat's Friday Project right now?   He *hates* Alexa, Amazon, and especially
>> Amazon Music.
>>
>> It's a wild new world, even though everything feels pretty much the same
>> (only different).
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On August 22, 2021 6:51:02 AM PDT, Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net> <jofr at cas-group.net> wrote:
>>
>> In the last virtual FRIAM meeting Jonathan Zingale mentioned that streaming services confine our access to music, because they mainly offer mainstream music.IMHO they also broaden our access to music: as a European I can listen to music from all around the world. I have for example German, Italian, Australian, British, American and Spanish playlists on Spotify. This weak I have listened for instance to a Spanish songhttps://open.spotify.com/track/1MdsletWuIR9ItEnitWRwp?si=yZPJfu01R_6RAmw9ang8mQDo you feel streaming services restrict our access to music or do they extend it? :-/-J.
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