[FRIAM] Dear Long Suffering Colleagues

Frank Wimberly wimberly3 at gmail.com
Sun Dec 19 18:24:32 EST 2021


Sober is correct.  I wish you would accept my offer to explain this to you
face to face with paper and pencil.

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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021, 4:20 PM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Here, once again, is the infamous Sober article.   I know.  Half of you
> want to throw me off FRIAM for being so ignorant as to give my time to it,
> while the other half want to throw me off FRIAM for being so ignorant as to
> find fault with it.  I confess that both of these could be true.
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> It all revolves the consequences of “screening off” and it’s possible
> relations to the claims of behaviorism.
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> First I want to point out what I have now come to believe are devastating
> typos, typos which those of you who have already read the text for me might
> not have noticed because you knew what the passages SHOULD say, and so read
> right over what they actually said   For me, with my very limited gasp of
> probability inference, was completely knocked flat by them and only quite
> recently come to believe that they are typos.
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> For example, if a stimulus S raises the probability of inner state I,
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> and I raises the probability of response R, then S raises the probability R, provided
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> that I screens-off S from I. Screening-off means that
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> Pr(R at t1 | I at t2 ) = Pr(R at t1 | I at t2 & S at t1 ).
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> Note that the two passages contradict one another.    I would simply
> disregard the first passage  if it weren’t repeated in the  document’s
> abstract:
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> E1 and E2, each causally contribute to a
>  behavior, B.  In this case, postulating
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>  an inner state, I, that is caused by both
>  E1 and E2, and which causes I, affects
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> one's predictions concerning the
>  relationship between environment and behavior.
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> Notice also, that this exposition in the abstract contemplates a causal
> collision, where the burden of the article concerns causal forks.
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> I have struggled to come up with a verbal account of “screening off” which
> is acceptable to either of my critiques.   Here is another,
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> Screening off means, where AèBèC, A has no effect on C other than its
> effect  via B
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> Could somebody settle the typo issue for me.
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> I will stop for now.
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> Nick Thompson
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> ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
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> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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