[FRIAM] Great Communicator or NLP unto TDS

[Frank Wimberly]

In case anyone missed what Marcus is referring to, as I did

https://www.theatlantic.com/facebook-instant/article/617623/

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Frank C. Wimberly
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On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 11:03 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:

> Caitlin’s observation about the velvet ropes captures it perfectly IMO.
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> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly
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> Trump speaks at a junior high level ("fantastic", "disgusting") and
> repeats every phase two or three times.  Obama was a great communicator.
> The effectiveness of the two styles depends on the audience.
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> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
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> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 10:57 AM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
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> I didn't take the bait on Friday's vFriam when DaveW (as I remember)
> claimed that Donald J Trump was "a great communicator".   (same as
> Reagan was credited by his fans and perhaps more reluctantly his
> detractors?)
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> I suppose Trump is very effective at one mode of transmission of his
> ugliest sentiments, which I find to be at best a very degenerate form of
> CO mmunication.
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> Whatever skills he has for "reading a crowd" and reflecting back that
> which serves his purposes feels more like Neurolinguistic Programming
> (NLP) than "communication".
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> I believe it is duplicitous and divisive to claim he is "a great
> communicator"  That implies both depth and breadth, that he is listening
> to a broad swath of the country and he is speaking to a broad swath.
> Perhaps by a twist of interpretation, you *can* claim that he has his
> finger on the pulse of those he whips into a seditious and
> insurrectional frenzy as well as those he cannot so instead whips into
> what has been called "Trump Derangement Syndrome" (TDS).  His apparent
> ability to instigate TDS in virtually everyone (type A or type B) is
> somewhat unique...  though authoritarian figures around the world have
> done it for millennia?
>
> One (DaveW?) could also argue his sublime ability to give clear
> direction/orders to his underlings (e.g. Michael Cohen, et al) without
> ever actually saying anything indictable.  This is the stuff of Crime
> bosses, right?   Very effective communicators within a very narrow (and
> useful to them) context.
>
> DaveW's assertion on Friday provided me the perspective and motivation
> to look a little deeper into the question of just what makes Trump's
> style of communication so dangerous.  The previous post with the
> Politico article about Sedition vs Insurrection came to me from that
> unconsciously I think.
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> - SteveS
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