[FRIAM] it's world logic day!

Thu Jan 14 16:20:15 EST 2021

There's no "only way" brother dear.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 12:15 PM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> No, I still disagree.  IFF thinking holistically is the only way to think
> rightly, THEN thinking holistically is the only logical way to think.
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> But we are about to be bickering over definitions, rather than clarifying
> meanings.  So long as you know that there is normative dimension in how I
> understand “logic”, and I know that for you, there isn’t, that in your
> usage there is truth-seeking argument that is not logical, then we probably
> will bore other people if we go on arguing.
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> But I love you like a brother,
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> Nick
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> Nicholas Thompson
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> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
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> Clark University
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> ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
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> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Merle Lefkoff
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 14, 2021 12:55 PM
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> No, Nick. Thinking logically is just not thinking holistically, it misses
> the whole enchilada, and one of the reasons we're doomed--clumsy, but the
> best I have time to come up with now.
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> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 10:24 AM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Merle,
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> I think the objection you have to logic flows from the misunderstanding of
> what logic is.  If you define logic is thinking that leads to truth, then
> any thinking that leads to truth is logical, and the project of Logic
> Studies is the project of finding out what sorts of thinking lead that
> way.  So, I would re-interpret your objection to be that logic, as we know
> it, is so constrained as to be dangerous and misleading.  I don’t want us
> to give up on truth-seeking – as the pragmatists understood truth.  [Glen,
> I stipulate your objections.]
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> Nick
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> Nicholas Thompson
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> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
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> Clark University
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> ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
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> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Merle Lefkoff
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 14, 2021 11:00 AM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] it's world logic day!
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> I find this celebration very disturbing and even dangerous at a time when
> some are beginning to realize that logic alone is bereft of the complexity
> of all the ways of being in a more-than-human world.
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> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:32 AM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks, Glen,
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> It’s nice to know that logic is being celebrated.  Still – surprise!—I
> have a correction.
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> Logic ... [is] the principles of [right] reasoning,
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> Funny how, this article, a celebration of logic, buggers the definition of
> logic, leaving out it’s ethical dimension.  Well, unless one believes that
> specious or fallacious logic is “logical”, logic is “good” thought, i.e.
> thought that leads probably to the truth.
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> Nick
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> Nicholas Thompson
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> Emeritus Professor of EthologTy and Psychology
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> Clark University
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> ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
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> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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> https://en.unesco.org/commemorations/worldlogicday
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> > The ability to think is one of the most defining features of humankind.
> In different cultures, the definition of humanity is associated with
> concepts such as consciousness, knowledge and reason. According to the
> classic western tradition, human beings are defined as “rational” or
> “logical animals”. Logic, as the investigation on the principles of
> reasoning, has been studied by many civilizations throughout history and,
> since its earliest formulations, logic has played an important role in the
> development of philosophy and the sciences.
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> > Despite its undeniable relevance to the development of knowledge,
> sciences and technologies, there is little public awareness on the
> importance of logic. The proclamation of World Logic Day by UNESCO, in
> association with the International Council for Philosophy and Human
> Sciences (CIPSH), intends to bring the intellectual history, conceptual
> significance and practical implications of logic to the attention of
> interdisciplinary science communities and the broader public.
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> > A dynamic and global annual celebration of World Logic Day aims at
> fostering international cooperation, promoting the development of logic, in
> both research and teaching, supporting the activities of associations,
> universities and other institutions involved with logic, and enhancing
> public understanding of logic and its implications for science, technology
> and innovation. Furthermore, the celebration of World Logic Day can also
> contribute to the promotion of a culture of peace, dialogue and mutual
> understanding, based on the advancement of education and science.
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