[FRIAM] effective altruism at work!

[Marcus Daniels]

It is his behavior that can be influenced, and one way to influence his behavior is through taxation.   
Trying to persuade him to have different values may or may not be possible.   He sort of backed away from Trump after a few interactions.   That could be because Trump is crazy or because of a PR backlash, I don't know.

I'd rather buy one of his dreams than watch any more of the stumbling around by the democrats. 

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Ha! No, Musk can't have whatever values he has. His values impinge on the world around him. And that impingement will result in a recoil counter-impingement. Our society is still liberal. So such people are allowed a lot of slack. But there is a price to pay somewhere, by someone, for such hubris.

E.g. more Rationalism at work:

My Experience with Leverage Research
https://scribe.rip/@zoecurzi/my-experience-with-leverage-research-17e96a8e540b

Common knowledge about Leverage Research 1.0
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Kz9zMgWB5C27Pmdkh/common-knowledge-facts-about-leverage-research-1-0-1

On 11/2/21 2:39 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> And referencing your hilarious "let them eat space" remark, one can distinguish between saving the design or prototype for human life from the current instances of life.   Democratic government is concerned with governing, supposedly on behalf of the instances, and Musk can whatever values he has.  


On 11/2/21 2:04 PM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote:
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> Let them eat space! Elon Musk and the race to end world hunger 
> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/02/elon-musk-race-h
> unger-world-food-programme-global-disaster
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>> Musk’s excuse for not handing over a tiny portion of his wealth to the WFP is hardly original. Billionaires love to sorrowfully declare that they are dying to pay more tax, but they can’t bear to see their money used inefficiently, so, for everyone’s sake, they had better hoard it instead. Last week, in response to a (very short-lived) plan by the Democrats to tax billionaires, BlackRock CEO Larry Fink said he would happily part with more of his dosh if there were assurances it would be spent well. “If we could find solutions where the money could be directed in a proper way, I have more to give.” Fellow billionaire Ray Dalio also said he would willingly pay more tax if it accomplished “greater productivity” but sadly, he wasn’t sure that it did. Musk, meanwhile, insinuated that he was doing us all a favour by not paying more tax. “My plan is to use the money to get humanity to Mars and preserve the light of consciousness,” he tweeted last Thursday. A couple of days later he darkly warned that a billionaire tax would trickle down. “Eventually they run out of other people’s money, and then they come for you.”
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