[FRIAM] Thread Bust: WAS: stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

[thompnickson2 at gmail.com]

Hi, Glen, 

It was quite clear that CHAOS was a much more "powerful" program, but I got an error message when I went to download it, and about that time Steve's message came in.  Miles has some passing familiarity with NetLogo and I don't think we need the power to demonstrate the essential point that a process can be fated to come out in a particular way even tho' none of the participants has any idea of what that fate is.  How Sophocles-esque!  But we do have the "Behe Problem".  How does natural selection select for the genes that make the fate when the fate is a non-linear consequence of the genes.  I suppose somebody has tried to select for different patterns as an outcome in a Net Logo model and see if selection could somehow dig down to the eight "genes" that make up the model.   I used to think I understood how this was possible, but right now it seems like a hot potato again.

Maybe CHAOS would let me try that experiment.

Nick 

Nick Thompson
ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

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Here's a kitchen sink program. I downloaded and tested it. 

https://softology.com.au/voc.htm


Here's the results of my test for rule 30:

https://youtu.be/sG-XZBta20M

The highlighted rows in the middle were used to generate the horizontal banner at the bottom, which makes MIDI music out of that region. I didn't include the audio in the video.

On 10/24/21 10:37 PM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
> Perhaps you are the person to answer this question:  I have snared both of my grandchildren in CA #30, the -son because he is interested in pattern formation in regenerating planaria and the -daughter because she likes really neat stuff.  I would like to give them simple programs so they could generate any one of the 256 rules and see the consequences of them.   I thought I would find several readily at hand, but what I did was a serious of sites which schooled me to write such a program myself.  I am too old for that.  Do you know of any I could email to my -children?  It is the first time in years that I have actually caught their fancy with something, so it would really make me happy.

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