[FRIAM] Ordinary logic
Frank Wimberly
wimberly3 at gmail.com
Fri Apr 1 14:49:02 EDT 2022
Formal logic is not a god but exists independently of nervous systems.
A -> B <-> -B -> -A
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Frank C. Wimberly
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On Fri, Apr 1, 2022, 9:57 AM Nicholas Thompson <thompnickson2 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Isn’t it the case that, in some sense, the subjects are being good
> Bayesian‘s in that they are taking a count of the priors. I know that’s
> wrong, but you see what I mean. It’s one of those puzzles of the form if
> elephants had wings, and wings convey flight, then elephants could fly?
> Right? The nice thing about Peirce is that he saw logic, not as a God, but
> as the result of the functioning of the elemental operators of the nervous
> system. Nick.
>
> Sent from my Dumb Phone
>
> On Apr 1, 2022, at 7:24 AM, Eric Charles <eric.phillip.charles at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> I mean.... presumably AFTER reading the second option, the participants
> understood the first option to be "a bank teller who is not an activist".
>
> The most notable thing about the study is how shitty psychological
> research is in general. It should be impossible to publish those results
> without some accompanying "qualitative" research exploring how the
> participants understood the question. Whether my interpretation is right
> or wrong, we should not be in the position of speculating blindly.
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 6:39 PM Nicholas Thompson <thompnickson2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I am still without a computer, but will try to dictate more precisely,
>> because I am going stir crazy not being able to communicate with friam.
>> There is a huge literature in philosophy and cognitive science in which
>> scientists ask people to make inferences and then fall over themselves
>> laughing when their subjects make inferences that are not correct according
>> to formal logic. Most of the examples that are familiar to me involved
>> abduction which formal logicians seem to regard as a fallacy but which
>> Peirce regards as a formally correct form of logic that is both
>> probabilistic and weak. Here is an example from sobers book, Ockhams razors
>>
>> Linda is 31 years old, single, outspoken and very bright. She majored in
>> philosophy. As a student she was deeply concerned with issues of
>> discrimination and social justice, and also participated in anti-nuclear
>> demonstrations. Philosophers asked subjects which of the following
>> statements is more probable: One Linda is a bank teller. Two jLinda is a
>> bank teller and is active in the feminist movement. When subjects answer
>> the latter, the philosophers fall all over themselves laughing because a
>> conjunction can never be larger than its conjuncts.
>>
>> Analytical philosophy aside, what do we suppose is going on here.? I
>> think the subjects have already abducted That the probability that Linda is
>> a bank teller is vanishingly small, And so have rejected the Premises of
>> the problem. Any wiser thoughts?
>>
>> Best my slurred speech and fat thumbs could do! Thanks for your patience.
>> Nick.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Dumb Phone
>>
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