[FRIAM] YAC - yet another cult

[Marcus Daniels]

When it becomes as a serious as dogma, it seems like it might be time to confront what is leading to the addiction rather than the addiction itself.

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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2022 8:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] YAC - yet another cult

I agree. And that's why the criticism that atheism *is* a truth claim (a belief) is convincing to me. Standard caveats #notallatheists, obviously. But I find it especially in the "deconstructed Christians", those atheists that are really just running from a toxic religiosity. They need a recovery group to cope with their traumatic history. The problem is that their recovery group *seems* to orbit "atheism", whereas it shouldn't.

Addiction recovery methods often involve "substitution". E.g it helps to use nicotine patches to quit smoking. Or, alcoholics can drink tea every time they get the urge to quaff some vodka. Recovering Christians may tend to substitute Atheism for Christianity. It *is* a category error. But someone who is habituated to metaphysical claims might invert atheism and treat it as a truth claim. I think a lot of recovering Christians do exactly that.

On 7/19/22 08:34, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Glen writes:
> 
> < And that's something non-religious atheists don't really have (though they clearly *want* it: https://seattleatheist.church/). >
> 
> A support group connected to an idea undermines the integrity of the idea.  It's culty.


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