[FRIAM] war footing

Wed Mar 2 16:01:30 EST 2022

Mrcus --

Sorry, that comment was directed to the thread as a whole after reading
through it in a doctors waiting room.  The quip was shared in haste as my
turn was called because it was too good to let pass.  It didn't mean to
apply to your comment directly.

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On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 2:29 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:

> Let me put it another way.  Even if one takes the view that the only goal
> in life is to be better off than the other guy, it is important to
> recognize the consequences of things and factor that into a plan.   Because
> if one doesn’t, then being better off than the other guy may not be
> sustainable.
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Roger Critchlow
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 2, 2022 11:22 AM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] war footing
>
>
>
> Which part of 'not being able to do things for the "right" reasons' do you
> not comprehend?
>
>
>
> --rec --
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> On Wed, Mar 2, 2022, 1:06 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone that has worked for a large company has probably experienced
> regular teleconferences with colleagues in different countries.
>
> It soon becomes clear that there is an unbelievable variance in salaries.
> Yes, some of it just adjusts for cost of living.   U.S. leads the world,
> except perhaps for Switzerland.    Then there are countries like India
> which have a massive workforce but get paid next to nothing.   On one hand
> globalization leads to exploitation of vulnerable populations, but on the
> other hand it leads to raised expectations over time.
>
>
>
> My point is that a UBI (or reparations) in the U.S. would reduce conflict
> within this country, but it won’t address the potential international
> productivity crisis that is coming.   If the U.S. doesn’t support raising
> the standard of living for people throughout the world, at some point we
> will suffer for it because we are too expensive.   (And really everyone is
> at risk from automation sooner or later.)  Our privilege shouldn’t be
> jealously guarded, as the nativists argue, it should be shared to lower the
> potential violence that could occur if we are seen as a bad guy like
> Putin.  Trump was just a dumb and incompetent version of Putin.
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Gillian Densmore
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 2, 2022 9:38 AM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] war footing
>
>
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> For cars Hydrogen, compressed air, mixed with electric. On paper (or
> plugged into a wall) is pretty cool as an idea...if we can, ya know, guild
> recharge stations similarly to how we build gas stations.
>
>
>
> Pardon the interruption though. But it's all fine and good to be
> perplexed, or triggered or what ever by Russia and the (former) eastern
> block. Going postal....
>
> Any plans to put the same energy into fixing super hard  problems at home?
> I hear that a lot of people are one paycheck from being homeless. and no
> one's going out to lobby the &&&&&&&& out of a Weekly allowance aka UBI.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 10:32 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
> wrote:
>
> One option is mixing hydrogen with natural gas to reduce how much needs to
> be imported.   IMO there’s nothing that motivates progress in technology
> than having a working production system that can be made incrementally
> better (e.g. the 20 TB hard drives one can buy these days).   A production
> ITER type system is still a long way off.   Note that Germany has its own
> Stellarator platform that perhaps they could accelerate.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.offshore-energy.biz/germany-to-break-free-from-russian-gas-with-two-lng-terminals/
>
>
> https://www.engie.com/en/businesses/gas/hydrogen/power-to-gas/the-grhyd-demonstration-project
>
> https://www.ipp.mpg.de/5125328/05_21?c=14226
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>
>
> Yes, time to abandon that gas station.
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Roger Critchlow
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 2, 2022 9:08 AM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> Friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* [FRIAM] war footing
>
>
>
> I'm thinking that a way to escalate our response to Putin, without
> actually fighting him, is to build a "green war machine".  Start a crash
> project to research, develop, and deliver the technology to liberate our
> european allies from their energy dependencies on russian oil and gas.  And
> everyone else as a side effect.
>
>
>
> That this is all stuff that we *cough* should be doing anyway is bonus
> content.  But what we can't seem to do for the "right" reasons might be
> easily done as a way to thwart an enemy who is so successfully making
> himself the most reviled man of our age.
>
>
>
> Longer term, the economic effects of the sanctions, the social effects of
> the ukrainian refugee crisis, and the demoralization of watching brute
> force in action are going to hurt our side a lot.  That may be Putin's
> actual endgame for the "operation" while he pretends to be Trump.   Better
> to be doing something positive than to be waiting around to see how it
> turns out.
>
>
>
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