[FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.

Steve Smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Sat Nov 5 12:17:36 EDT 2022


Good one Carl/Ken ...

And don't even get me started on converting calendars and clocks to 
*metric* (y'all know how much I prefer fractions over decimals for 
everyday measures and calculations).

As  a child, WWV was one of the very few constant signals I could tune 
in on my parent's antique (even then) "Zenith Wave Magnet" they let me 
keep in my bedroom... I can still see the dull orange glow seeping out 
of the back of the set when the tubes were cooking...   now-adays when I 
fire it up I also smell the dust burning off.   Deeply visceral... 
"beep, beep, beep..."  WWV-Fort Collins.

I haven't cared "much" about DST in any part of my life... it has just 
been an opportunity to stir the pot and be contrarian about something I 
know to be arbitrarily arbitrary really.   Same for 
metric/english/archaic measures.  All those things exist for good reason 
even if they persist for bad ones.

On 11/4/22 10:45 PM, Carl Tollander wrote:
> OK, then.  Ken Nordine on Time.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVYpCdY4Y_0
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:33 PM Gillian Densmore 
> <gil.densmore at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Protection_Act#:~:text=The%20bill%20received%20bipartisan%20support,consent%20on%20March%2015%2C%202022.
>     steeeve
>     It's a BFD to me because of GP. mucking about with the clock a
>     ruining winter is dumb.
>
>     On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:26 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         Honestly, I just don't get why it's such a big deal. Sure,
>         it's obsolete. And maybe it kills a few people, raises
>         cortisol, etc. But there are so many other things that affect
>         our (sleep) cycles soooooo much more, like obesity,
>         alcoholism, wage slavery, TikTok fomo, ... on and on. Passing
>         such a law feels like rearranging the deck chairs on the
>         Titanic. Or maybe complaining about how a reporter discussing
>         Putin mispronounces "nukular" ... an odd thing to complain
>         about while the ICBM heads your way.
>
>
>         On 11/4/22 15:17, Steve Smith wrote:
>         >
>         > On 11/4/22 4:14 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
>         >> Didn't the sunshine act already pass? but yes I agree I
>         despise the clock change bull sh**** It takes effect next year
>         unless Turtle neck had his usual tantrum.
>         >
>         >  From the linked article:
>         >
>         >     /Earlier this year, the U.S. Senate unanimously passed
>         bipartisan legislation to abolish clock changes and make
>         daylight saving time permanent, beginning in 2023. Sen. Marco
>         Rubio, R-Florida, introduced////the Sunshine Protection Act
>         <https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623>//,
>         and Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, was among the co-sponsors./
>         >
>         >     /"Glad the Senate has passed the Sunshine Protection Act
>         so Oregonians aren’t springing back & forth each year in a
>         silly exercise that hurts everybody’s health & our economy,"
>         Wyden tweeted March 15. "Time now for the House to act."/
>         >
>         >     /In June 2022, the U.S. House failed to pass the bill,
>         which is now stalled and scheduled to expire in December./
>         >
>         >     /Let the debate resume in March 2023./
>         >
>         >>
>         >> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:10 PM Steve Smith
>         <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
>         >>
>         >>     as we all know I'm no fan of semi-annual clock
>         changes... and I thought the Sunshine Act
>         <https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623>would
>         put an end to that nonsense even if did fall on the "wrong
>         side" with a year-round DST timesqew.   Looks like it is going
>         to fail despite bipartisan support in the Senate (unsurprising
>         that Florida, closest to the equator, effected least, would be
>         the one to sponsor/promote it?)...
>         >>
>         >>     Oregon (in coordination with CA/WA) have tried to take
>         things into their own hands independent of the rest of the
>         country?
>         >>
>         >>
>         https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/2022/11/03/oregon-daylight-saving-time-november-march/69613463007/
>         >>
>         >>
>         >>     I suppose I could live with the sqew and just change
>         the idioms from 12 noon and 12 midnight to 11 noon and 11
>         midnight and call it a day/year/life.   Seems like it would
>         just make more sense to sqew the 8-5 (or 9-4) for bankers) an
>         hour earlier instead, but what is the point of having a
>         state/federal/global government if it isn't going to decide
>         for you how we index time?
>         >>
>
>
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