[FRIAM] NickC channels DaveW

[cody dooderson]

Would it be possible for some hologram people (maybe Steve Smith and
associates), to turn one of these convolutional neural networks into an
optical convolutional network? I could see a bunch of layers of tiny lenses
with different 'weights' doing the same thing as say a YOLO object
detection network.

_ Cody Smith _
cody at simtable.com

* YOLOv7 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2207.02696.pdf


On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 8:06 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:

> Cerebras says they can scale past 1 trillion parameters..
>
> [image: Cerebras-MemoryX-SwarmX-CS-2_banner.png]
>
> Wafer Scale to ‘Brain-Scale’ – Cerebras Touts Linear Scaling up to 192
> CS-2 Systems
> <https://www.hpcwire.com/2021/08/24/wafer-scale-to-brain-scale-cerebras-touts-linear-scaling-for-up-to-192-cs-2-systems/>
> hpcwire.com
> <https://www.hpcwire.com/2021/08/24/wafer-scale-to-brain-scale-cerebras-touts-linear-scaling-for-up-to-192-cs-2-systems/>
>
> <https://www.hpcwire.com/2021/08/24/wafer-scale-to-brain-scale-cerebras-touts-linear-scaling-for-up-to-192-cs-2-systems/>
>
> That would be a power budget of a HPC center, but not out of the
> ordinary.  Less than 10 MW.   AWS, Azure, Google and national labs have
> facilities like that.
>
> On Jan 18, 2023, at 12:41 AM, Pieter Steenekamp <
> pieters at randcontrols.co.za> wrote:
>
> 
> I totally agree that realizable behavior is what matters.
>
> The elephant in the room is whether AI (and robotics of course) will (not
> to replace but to) be able to do better than humans in all respects,
> including come up with creative solutions to not only the world's most
> pressing problems but also small creative things like writing poems, and
> then to do the mental and physical tasks required to provide goods and
> services to all in the world,
>
> Sam Altman said there are two things that will shape our future;
> intelligence and energy. If we have real abundant intelligence and energy,
> the world will be very different indeed.
>
> To quote Sam Altmen at
> https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/startups/intelligence-energy-sam-altmans-technology-predictions-for-2020s/articleshow/86088731.cms
>  :
>
> "intelligence and energy have been the fundamental limiters towards most
> things we want. A future where these are not the limiting reagents will be
> radically different, and can be amazingly better."
>
>
>
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 03:06, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
>
>> Definitions are all fine and good, but realizable behavior is what
>> matters.   Analog computers will have imperfect behavior, and there will be
>> leakage between components.   A large network of transistors or neurons are
>> sufficiently similar for my purposes.   The unrolling would be inside a
>> skull, so somewhat isolated from interference.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2023 2:11 PM
>> To: friam at redfish.com
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] NickC channels DaveW
>>
>> I don't quite grok that. A crisp definition of recursion implies no
>> interaction with the outside world, right? If you can tolerate the
>> ambiguity in that statement, the artifacts laying about from an unrolled
>> recursion might be seen and used by outsiders. That's not to say a
>> trespasser can't have some sophisticated intrusion technique. But unrolled
>> seems more "open" to family, friends, and the occasional acquaintance.
>>
>> On 1/17/23 13:37, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>> > I probably didn't pay enough attention to the thread some time ago on
>> serialization, but to me recursion is hard to distinguish from an unrolling
>> of recursion.
>>
>> --
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