[FRIAM] more agonism

[Steve Smith]

On 10/18/23 11:27 AM, glen wrote:
> Here's PZ Myers policing his community:
>
> The Gamete Delusion
> https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2023/10/17/the-gamete-delusion/
>

https://www.theparadoxinstitute.com/watch/is-sex-bimodal




I don't really have a dog in this fight other than the general feeling 
that I support underdogs (and not just the ones who fly off in all 
directions at once).


to paraphrase one of the more notable FriAM-Sages... "people should be 
called what they want to be called"...  harping on the emic/etic 
conflation some more, I find these discussions (e.g. Dawkins et al) 
rather off-point in this regard.   I understand (vaguely) why we all 
feel we must make sweeping generalizations about *other people's 
business*... some of it is an empathetic response, wanting to 
understand, but some of it is the response of someone who wants to 
control others.     These *are* conflated by circumstance in the sense 
that  in spite of the pithy aphorism "your opinion of me is none of my 
business", most of us actually *do* care what others think of us and it 
does effect how they interact with us.   It always feels unfortunate 
that those who want to tell others how to present/feel/be too often set 
the subject of debate.


I *expect* someone with their own dog in the fight to have an 
insider/personal view of these things and am generally interested and 
curious about their perspective up to their privacy.   For those who 
mostly just want to stir up a dogfight, I'm not particularly interested 
in their view beyond preparing myself for when *they* might choose to 
try to stir up a dog(cat?)fight in *my* backyard.

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