[FRIAM] provenance

glen gepropella at gmail.com
Thu Feb 8 12:59:11 EST 2024

Maybe. I guess it depends on the mechanism. The ephemerides from some machines can teach us something, others not so much. I think this encapsulates my skepticism for LLMs. Language just isn't that interesting of a biomarker for intelligence. To me things like dance or, say, the ability to remove a screw whose head has been stripped ... or do a roadside fix of a motorcycle ... these are all better biomarkers for intelligence than language.

On 2/8/24 09:29, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> That's an important part of being an episodic personality:  History will teach us nothing.
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> She Was Falsely Accused of Cheating With AI — And She Won’t Be the Last https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/student-accused-ai-cheating-turnitin-1234747351/
> That is an old article. But what interests me is: "Then she began gathering evidence that she’d written the brief herself."
> It strikes me that the best way to give evidence that you actually wrote something (or generated any kind of [cough] content), is to show its evolution from start to finish. For things like code and text, it seems obvious to simply use a revision control system. That can include something as irritating as Track Changes in Word, Git, or whatever. But for blobs, it seems more difficult. Most tools like GIMP have an Undo function, but only for that session. If you close the project then re-open it, you can't undo what you did before you closed it. It seems reasonable to store some sort of trace, even if it's prohibitive to allow for full reversibility.
> A second-best way might be to keep either all your old content so you can extract patterns from it and, then, show how some one instance of it matches your induced "signature". Or you could throw away or assume old content will be lost and keep a defeasible inference database, continually trained up on your content, handy to give such pattern-oriented evidence. But this sort of diachronic database has the same flaws bemoaned in the article (e.g. TurnItIn's AI detector). Plus, some of us want to doff such histories once and awhile, make ourselves anew.
> But if we were to encourage people of, say, age 10 to store their works, we'd have to teach them how to index their portfolio. We'd have to teach library science at a very early age. I can't even find notes I took a week ago, much less crap I wrote decades ago.

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