[FRIAM] nice quote

[steve smith]

What sound does a spherical cow make?
> Moo
mOo?
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>
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2024, 5:51 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
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>     I agree. But it depends fundamentally on what one means by all
>     those words: "model", "wrong", "useful" - 3 unknowns, assuming
>     "some" and "all" are understood as quantifiers and "are" is
>     understood as membership/identity. The problem with the EO Wilson
>     aphorism was that it was too short. This one is even shorter. As I
>     tried to hint at in my comment about *solving* for the meaning of
>     a variable in a sentence, the fewer the sentences, the less
>     meaning the sentences have. Why not simply reduce all aphorisms to
>     Mu and be done with it?
>
>
>     On 10/8/24 14:06, Jon Zingale wrote:
>     > Since we are picking on aphorisms, I wish to add criticism to
>     "all models are wrong, some are useful".
>     >
>     > To a great extent, the qualities of the thing being modelled
>     matters. For instance, natural numbers do have crisp, compact
>     properties and can be modelled by sets. To claim that models are
>     never correct is to deny that bisimulation ever exists between
>     machines. It is fine, I suppose, as a world view, but proving
>     bisimulation between things also seems fine.
>     >
>     > Weirder still is the case where things can model one another and
>     yet not be useful. While closed lambda calculi, turing machines
>     and agent based models can all model universal computers,
>     limitations of various types can render any particular model
>     useless. Only partially with tongue-in-cheek, I am not sure anyone
>     has ever found Turing's machine to be useful for anything other
>     than getting a passing grade on a senior year project. In the case
>     of ants, do we really have to wait so long?
>     >
>     > Alright, time to run away before my ears are George Boxed...
>
>
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