[FRIAM] Mansplaining the ManSplainOverse: 2024 Rusty Razor award
steve smith
sasmyth at swcp.com
Mon Oct 21 12:55:48 EDT 2024
glen sed
> Yes. It can be frustrating. My latest pet peeve are the foodies. No
> matter where I go, what group I'm hanging out in, the discussion of
> food absolutely dominates. They'll talk about which pizza place is the
> best in town for like, an hour. Or they'll talk about risotto for a
> half an hour then move on to some other obscure dish. It's exhausting.
> It's even worse when the foodies start mansplaining beer to me. I've
> been home brewing longer than most of these people have been alive.
> But they'll yap to no end about it while I remind my self of Gellmann
> amnesia <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gell-Mann_Amnesia_effect>
(apologies to Gil for (also) not helping to answer his original plea for
help with archive.org and lost-data retrieval, and kudos to Glen for
offering the Gell-Man reference, new to me)
Let me offer some mansplaining about mansplaining:
My favorite 3rd wave feminist (my numbering scheme, starting from 1 not
0) is Rebecca Solnit and I credit her both with the mansplaining
adjacent precedent in an essay ( circa 200x) titled "Men explain things
to me" where she recounts the experience of attending a cocktail party
invited by a friend (in San Francisco I think) where the hostess
introduced her to a man who had just read the (first?) book she had
published on Edward Muybridge. The man was head over heels in love with
the subject and the book but didn't listen to the introduction well
enough to realize he was being introduced to it's *Author*, and
proceeded to explain everything he had learned from the book about
Muybridge and his work. My understanding of Solnit is that she is
nobody's fool an anything but a wallflower, but being "third wave" not
known to be a "firebrand" styled feminist. I don't know if she
deliberately kept paying out rope to hang himself with or not but by the
time she extracted herself from the conversation, I think she never
interrupted him (effectively?) enough to correct or inform him on the
nature of his travesty of the moment.
I do believe that "mansplaining" as a verb grew popular out of that
incident/recount (maybe not, "all anecdotes are wrong, few are
interesting, none are useful?")
She also coined (FWIW, more self-fact-checking indicates she did not
coin but merely amplify) the hashtag #yesallwomen in response to the
#notallmen hashtag of roughly 2013(fact-check sez 2014)... I was not a
hashtag-kinda-guy but knew the idiom at the time... it was after the
(before the name existed?) incel living with several (asian-american?)
roomates (he being pasty-white) knifed three to death, drove to a
sorority house (where he had been ignored/excluded), shot several women,
then went on a shooting/hit-run rampage until he self-anhillated.
What follows is my contribution to the power demand of AI attempting to
fact-check myself loosely at the expense of the planet's resources which
I purport to want to save for my grandchildren to continue to exploit a
little longer: /(I don't know what the gripe GPT has with my question,
perhaps the very reference to "incel" or "killing"?)/
what was the incident in (southern?) california about 10 years ago
where a young man knifed one or more of his roomates and tried to
kill (also knife?) a few sorority girls in a fit of pique around his
inability to attract girls?
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ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT
The incident you're referring to is the /2014 Isla Vista killings/,
which took place near the University of California, Santa Barbara.
The attacker was a 22-year-old man named Elliot Rodger, who carried
out a killing spree on May 23, 2014. His rampage involved a
combination of stabbings, shootings, and a car attack, and was
driven by his deep frustration and anger over his inability to form
relationships with women, a theme he frequently expressed in his
writings and online videos.
Rodger started by stabbing three of his roommates to death in his
apartment. Afterward, he drove to a nearby sorority house, where he
attempted to enter but was unable to. He then shot three women
outside the house, killing two of them. After this, he continued
driving through Isla Vista, shooting at pedestrians and running
people over with his car before ultimately taking his own life.
In total, Rodger killed six people and injured 14 others. He left
behind a manifesto and several YouTube videos outlining his
grievances, largely focusing on his personal struggles with social
isolation and rejection by women. The incident sparked widespread
discussions about mental health, misogyny, and the influence of
online communities that foster extreme views about gender and
relationships.
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