[FRIAM] What if Trump Wins?

[steve smith]

EricS wrote:

On 10/31/24 5:07 AM, Santafe wrote:
> ...

>   The voting block that can cause the calamity is certainly a coalition of non-identical groups.  If we think there are categories of Spontaneous Racists and Stimulated Racists (to borrow a term from spectroscopy), the part of the voting bloc that is made up of the spontaneous ones may not be all that large; maybe 20%?  Not as large as the evangelicals (35–40%?, with some overlap).  There presumably are some genuinely out-to-lunch types, and maybe one can imagine that talking has some place with them, which could be enough to move the margin of this winner-take-all event we are stuck with.  And then the ones that can think enough to be strategically greedy or hoarding, but not circumspect enough to have every cared or understood how the society they suck from actually functions.  _Maybe_ talking could have some effect with them.


Love the articulate, dense, but concise essay on this front-of-mind 
high-stakes topic for the week (year).

For the hard-core CS types here it would seem we have a Marshalling of Mobs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshalling_(computer_science)

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Marshalling_in_heraldry

In an attempt to avoid launching into a Morbid-Fascination, rant/rave, 
let me offer a few source domains of suggested interest/relevance:

      * Goth/Visigoth 2-4C
      * Mongols 13-14C
      * Native American Confederated resistances (Tecumseh, Geronimo,
        Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse) 18-19C

not to mention dozens or hundreds or great saros of "popular movements" 
we might identify with:

      * reformation
      * french revolution
      * american (federation of 13 colonies)
      * abolitionism
      * suffragism
      * civil rights
      * equal rights
      * anti-apartheid
      * solidarnosk
      * arab spring
      * occupy
      * BLM
      * #MeToo
      * Fridays for Future

If/when Harris wins, it will be based on as unlikely of a coalition 
perhaps as the combination of Evangelicals, Angry White Men, Millenial 
Incels, Reagan Republicans, etc who shoved Donald Trump's electoral 
college support over the unlikely line in 2016.

In a nod to Jochen, I appreciate the gesture of hope and solidarity from 
our friends in Europe who may have more riding on our outcome than we 
do?   I may have influenced a small handful of votes  (softened the hard 
core center of a few anti-Liberal acquaintances enough they might at 
least write-in, leave the top of the ticket blank or not even go to the 
polls)...   this is where my hope lies, that 1/10 Lefties and Allies 
have done the same...

Sarbajit once indicated he wasn't interested in the outcome or struggles 
of US Politics Re: Trumpism... perhaps India is in a good position to 
ride through this global geopolitical (possible) transition.  I *am* 
sympathetic that the US might well look like "just another global bully" 
not that different than the likes of Putin's Russia and Xi's China.   
Power is Corruption?   Pieter is another representative (reluctant or 
proud?) of the BRICS bloc whose interests in this might not be as 
aligned as those of Europe.   I do wish we had a (yet) broader (vocal?) 
constituency here.
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