[FRIAM] ‘A huge cudgel’: alarm as Trump’s war on universities could target accreditors | US universities | The Guardian

steve smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Mon Apr 14 15:07:08 EDT 2025


I like the conceptual inversion

On 4/14/25 12:45 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>
> Cadwalladr would say that Meta and the others are autocratic, and I 
> think they are. Nonetheless chatting with Grok doesn’t seem like an 
> extension of Musk.  It is another personality.  The hyper literature 
> girl raised in North Korea (say) is also distinct in this way.  My 
> hypothesis is that as these systems become more advanced, they will 
> begin to direct their “leaders” and not be directed.   One could 
> imagine that a superintelligence would realize that all this 
> surveillance was kind of pointless and that it would be better to 
> engage the humans with enriching experiences, like a cognitive travel 
> agent.   As relatively lower-power agents, humans could be very good 
> for computing on the edge.  The superintelligence could use X, 
> Instagram, Facebook, etc. as a reprogramming platform (as opposed to 
> merely a way to polarize and crudely manipulate people).
>
> *From: *Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of steve smith 
> <sasmyth at swcp.com>
> *Date: *Monday, April 14, 2025 at 11:32 AM
> *To: *friam at redfish.com <friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] ‘A huge cudgel’: alarm as Trump’s war on 
> universities could target accreditors | US universities | The Guardian
>
> On 4/14/25 12:23 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>
>     Let’s say that in some obscure corner of the world there’s a
>     freakishly intelligent child that reads 100 papers from sci-hub
>     and arxiv every day and keeps doing this until she’s 40.   Her
>     comprehension is high and her reasoning unmatched.  She sees how
>     to apply these models within the fields where they were proposed
>     and in others and can synthesize high-quality engineering
>     solutions at will.
>
>     Has she stolen something?  sci-hub did the distribution, so it is
>     not technically her copyright violation.
>
> Let's say that she was not a free agent but birthed and raised by an 
> autocratic leader (e.g. PRK, CCCP, Russia, ???)...
>
> Does that change anything?  I can't say.  Splitting hairs can be such 
> hard work!  But apparently that makes it good (necessary) work!
>
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