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IDK. That data *is* downloaded in a real sense, even if it's only in /tmp or cache for a short amount of time. Is it a "copy" if it's only in /tmp? How long can you keep it in your cache before it becomes a "copy"? And I'd also argue that when the original document is split/chunked or OCR'ed or whatever, that also counts as a reproduction in some sense. The only way it's not a reproduction is if one of the 2 conditions obtain 1) the imprint isn't very accurate and precise or 2) if the reproduction/execution isn't *distributed* in any wide sense. For the 40 year old with an eidetic memory (2) obtains. With a broadly executed SotA LLM, neither obtain.  E.g. Llama 3 is being run in a lot of places. That's distribution. And ChatGPT is free to use for simpler queries. That's also distribution.

But I agree, it's not well-understood as plagiarism.

On 4/14/25 1:22 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> The claim that they are merely plagiarism engines does not seem plausible to me, based on many very technical interactions where I have good reason to believe the available training material is sparse.
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On 4/14/25 12:20 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> There’s only a reproduction violation by the user if they make a copy.  If they are reading it in a browser interface that just blasts pixels at them, then the fast-reading gal in North Korea has not broken a (western) law.   It is vanishingly unlikely Meta did it that way, but in principle it could be done.
> 

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