[FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

[steve smith]

Marcus -

I think you explicate the nut of the Musk-Trump axis here.

I'm guessing there is an equally succinct/pithy version for the 
Trump/Putin axis.

- Steve
>
> Propositions:
>
> 1) Musk is an accelerationist that wants to redirect federal funds to 
> things he thinks are worthy.   This has the convenient overlap with 
> his business endeavors.  Trump (and gullible Americans) were the means 
> to do that.  Medicare, Social Security, veterans benefits, education, 
> foreign aid, all are not worthy to him.    His idea of what is worthy 
> may be more fully developed than the average MAGA voter, or even 
> average person, but are impoverished compared to say, the average 
> university professor.
>
>
> 2)  He’s at the helm of several companies full of people smarter than 
> he is, and things work better when he is kept away.   Like Trump, he’s 
> a man-child with a large but fragile ego.   He can’t substantially 
> improve the functioning of Tesla or Space X or X or xAi or Neuralink, 
> other than to raise money, and do publicity stunts.  So, he fills up 
> his days getting the attention he needs on social media and now with DOGE.
>
> *From:*Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *steve smith
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2025 12:32 PM
> *To:* friam at redfish.com
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam
>
> On 2/13/25 12:39 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>
>     "Elon really wants to save the world - but only if it's him who
>     does it."
>     -- Sam Altman
>
> and save it in his own image (that one impressed on him by too much 
> "old fashioned future" SciFi?)
>
> I sometimes worry that Musk in his "autism-spectrum" affect and Altman 
> in his "affable, bright young man"  got together long ago to form a 
> "good cop"/"bad cop" alliance?  I don't want to think that but Altman 
> seems to keep wandering further into that realm?
>
> I find Musk to be Trump's "porch dog" chained up under the porch with 
> a chain just long enough to keep him from biting walking down the 
> sidewalk until one day Trump adds another few feet of chain...
>
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