[FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam

steve smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Fri Feb 14 12:03:41 EST 2025


Marcus -

    I do like the "cut of your morbid fascination jib" to strain a
    metaphor badly...

    WhEEEEeeeeee!!!


- Steve

> I think a confluence of events that could end the terror/amusement 
> ride could include:
>
>
> 1) He pours money into xAI or buyouts of AI companies like OpenAI, but 
> doesn’t succeed at either
>
> 2) He gets significant competition from Blue Origin
>
> 3) The energy and automobile companies of Tesla get broken up, due to 
> shareholder revolt
>
> 4) No one buys Tesla’s cars because they aren’t as good of a value 
> compared to competitors, and because Elon is a jerk
>
> 5) X continues to suck money with no end in sight
>
> 6) Trump turns on him.  Reasons could include:
>
>   a) a public Social Security and/or Medicare outrage
>
>   b) the narcissist competition
>
> *From:*Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Pieter Steenekamp
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2025 9:53 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
> <friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam
>
> Elon Musk is a massive jerk. Huge. But let’s be real—he’s also a 
> genius who actually gets big things done. So, whether you admire him 
> or wish you could launch him into space, we’re all strapped into this 
> rollercoaster.
>
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 at 03:13, Pieter Steenekamp 
> <pieters at randcontrols.co.za> wrote:
>
>     */_I want to like Musk_/*
>
>     I don’t want to like Musk. On a personal level, he doesn’t seem
>     like someone I’d want to like.
>
>     But for me, this isn’t about liking or disliking him. I have deep
>     admiration for what he has achieved—and continues to achieve—for
>     the world. Too often, people let their personal feelings about
>     Musk cloud their judgment of his impact.
>
>     I’d love to hear from someone who, after a deep dive into Musk’s
>     accomplishments, still believes he isn’t one of humanity’s
>     greatest achievers.
>
>     Take Walter Isaacson, for example. He clearly doesn’t like Musk on
>     a personal level, yet he recognizes his extraordinary ability to
>     accomplish great things. I challenge anyone to read Isaacson’s
>     biography and still deny the significance of Musk’s achievements.
>
>
>
>
>     On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 at 00:22, Marcus Daniels
>     <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
>
>         Tom Tom (Netherlands) still shows Gulf of Mexico. 
>         OpenStreetMap (UK) too.
>
>         *From:*Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of
>         *Stephen Guerin
>         *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2025 1:53 PM
>         *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>         <friam at redfish.com>
>         *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] OpenAI and the fight between Elon and Sam
>
>         On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 12:32 PM cody dooderson
>         <d00d3rs0n at gmail.com> wrote:
>         >
>         > I want to like Musk. At one point I did, for the reasons
>         mentioned above. I am suspicious that his neuro-link is
>         malfunctioning and destroying his empathy. That being said, I
>         am hopeful that he brings the metric system to the USA, and
>         somehow doesn't end up in charge of the nuclear weapons
>         arsenal in the process.
>
>         And from your lips to Google's (and Bing and Apple maps's)
>         ears, Cody.
>
>         At least I can switch to metric in Google Maps - 500.0 km from
>         Galveston to Merida :-)
>         I don't have to change region to Mexico or practically
>         anywhere else, to get metric by default (which is how google
>         maps works)
>
>         I should be able to switch to a different naming system
>         without having to change my whole region.
>
>         Or make metric the standard for the US too..
>
>         Google enforces government naming directives, like renaming
>         the Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America, without allowing user
>         overrides. However, for measurement units, they allow users to
>         switch between miles and kilometers, despite the U.S.
>         government recognizing metric as the "preferred system" since
>         1975. This creates an inconsistency where official directives
>         are followed for naming but ignored for measurement standards.
>         If Google applies government policy selectively, they should
>         either enforce metric as the default or allow users to choose
>         place names in their map settings.
>
>         There is no law or executive action stating The United States
>         Customary System (USCS) is the official system of the U.S.—it
>         is simply entrenched through historical precedent., miles,
>         feet, inches, pounds, gallons, fahrenheit, BTU, HP, ton, and
>         my personal favorite in Action ( ft·lb·s).  etc.
>
>         But there are plenty of federal actions for metric,
>
>         Cody, here's some ammo you can use in your letter writing,
>         occupy movements and social media campaigns why the mapping
>         companies should avoid hypocrisy and change to metric if they
>         are going to listen to government mandates:
>
>           * Weights and Measures Act of 1866: Legalized metric use in
>             trade.
>           * Treaty of the Meter (1875): U.S. joined international
>             metric system.
>           * Mendenhall Order (1893): Defined U.S. customary units via
>             metric standards.
>           * Metric Conversion Act of 1975: Declared metric as
>             preferred system.
>           * Executive Order 12770 (1991): Required federal agencies to
>             use metric.
>           * Omnibus Trade and Competitiveness Act of 1988:
>             Strengthened federal metric adoption.
>           * Fair Packaging and Labeling Act (1992 amendment): Required
>             metric on product labels.
>           * National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)
>             Policy (2008): Encouraged metric in commerce.
>
>
>
>
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