[FRIAM] International Conference on ANTICIPATORY SYSTEMS AND ROSENNEAN COMPLEXITY. May 22 – 23, 2025, UNAM, Mexico

steve smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Mon Jan 20 14:59:00 EST 2025


On 1/20/25 8:04 AM, glen wrote:
> Yeah, that would be a lot of fun. Judith once called me "poisonous" 
> ... or maybe it was "toxic". I'll have to check my email archives. So 
> I doubt my contribution would be well-received. She later back-tracked 
> and lowered her estimation of me to something like "ignorant" or 
> "contrarian" or somesuch, like being demoted from Villain to redshirt 
> <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red+shirt>. Even if I 
> didn't go, the submission-rejection process would be fun. I'll see if 
> I can come up with a topic. >8^D

I think Judith might have been channeling our own Doug Roberts? I know 
*I* have used "contrarian" for you but it was intended to be a term of 
endearment not dismissal, though I do understand how "merely contrarian" 
might feel implied?   I know I tend toward kneejerk contrarian around 
technoutopian sentiments.

I had no idea you were already engaged with this community.   I was 
unaware of that Robert's daughter had taken up his legacy (reminds me a 
bit of the Mead/Bateson, Dyson, Bertalanffly dynasties?

I listened to the Systems Thinking Ontario 2023: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ol5Q12G7P4 to get a bead on the tenor 
of Judith's perspectives.  I don't see any specific reference to Judith 
at the MX workshop but I'm guessing nothing Rossenian happens in public 
without Judith invited/participating?


>
> On 1/20/25 6:15 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
>> Glen,
>>
>> I saw Carlos Getshenson posted this in Complexity Digest today.
>>
>> https://anticipation.philcomp.org/ <https://anticipation.philcomp.org/>
>>
>> If FRIAM raised the dollars from its members, can we send you as its 
>> envoy to present and report back?
>>
>> 3/4 serious. 1/4 just a funny idea that we would have an envoy and 
>> imagine sending you out as our lead Rosennian philosophical sparring 
>> partner.
>
>



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