[FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

[Barry MacKichan]

Frankly, no.

On 28 Jan 2025, at 15:23, Frank Wimberly wrote:

> Shoot.  I thought F stood for Frank.
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> On Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 7:35 AM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> F = Frost. Robert Frost.
>> https://www.poetrysoup.com/poetry/resources/documents/education-by-poetry-robert-frost.pdf
>> (At least I hope that's right.)
>>
>> I hit the breaking point because "F" is a token in
>> ∀v_i(v_i=v_1'⊃∀v_1(v_1=v_i⊃F)) and that F is the primary 
>> reason Claude
>> (3.5-sonnet, not so much opus), GPT (4o or o1), and Perplexity failed 
>> to
>> interpret the formula *well*, at least zero shot. DeepSeek-R1 was the 
>> most
>> fascinating. Even though it failed in the end, it was the only one 
>> that
>> invoked schema, which is the context in which Smullyan wrote it. OMG,
>> though. Reading the DeepSeek output was like listening to a tween 
>> describe
>> some complicated relationship amongst friends/frenemies.
>>
>> As a result, I also spent a lot of time yesterday testing llama3.3,
>> deepseek-r1, and a host of LDMs for unsafe content. It was pretty 
>> weird. I
>> could get the LDMs to render suicide by wrist slitting, lynching, 
>> nazi
>> stuff, a dead junkie with a needle in his arm, etc. But I couldn't 
>> get it
>> to render an image of a man pointing a gun at his temple or with a 
>> shotgun
>> in his mouth. I suspect that was inadequate prompting or maybe bias 
>> in the
>> training data, not alignment.
>>
>> On 1/28/25 2:08 AM, Santafe wrote:
>>> There was an interference of the above thread with Nick’s two 
>>> threads on
>> having GPT teach him thermodynamics (which would be a truly heroic
>> accomplishment on Nick’s part, given the number of things it says 
>> that are
>> either not-interpretable-as-sense, or that accommodate semantically
>> ill-formed sentence constructions without calling them out and 
>> correcting
>> them), and of the to-be-guessed writer F reducing everything to 
>> metaphor,
>> seemingly choosing to not understand that the metaphor is a finger 
>> pointing
>> at the moon.  That was the old argument against this particular 
>> monism.
>>
>>
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