[FRIAM] projection propaganda
steve smith
sasmyth at swcp.com
Tue Jul 8 16:12:06 EDT 2025
On 7/8/25 8:16 AM, glen wrote:
> Yeah. OK. After thinking about it a bit, Newton definitely qualifies.
> I guess I've always felt that he *wanted* to be a private seeker and
> was too insecure and triggered by criticism ... something I don't
> think is natural to scientists
> . The old aphorism that highlights the paradox goes something like: If
> your mind is too open, everything falls out, too closed, nothing gets in.
If your mind is too open, just about anyone can pour just about anything
into it?
> Newton just seems like he really wanted to be a mystic. But he was too
> often too correct and made a pesky wake he couldn't ignore. My naive
> and idealistic understanding of the Good Scientists™ I like are rapid
> updaters who change their minds all the time when presented with new
> information, but simultaneously great world-builders such that the new
> information wobbles into the network of facts organically.
>
> But I guess because he was so thin-skinned, he helped develop the
> rigor good criticism needs, even if he didn't seem very friendly about
> it. I guess it's like he didn't believe science (or alchemy) was
> *social* ... more Platonic. And that just seems anti-science at this
> point. Math? Yes. Science? No. The "mad scientist" trope goes
> hand-in-hand with Great Man Theory. But clearly, Musk has demonstrated
> we haven't matured out of that nonsense yet.
He was definitely a creature of his time...
his reputation as an alchemist (now) exceeds that as a natural
philosopher/scientist:
John Maynard Keynes, who bought many of the papers, said:
"Newton was not the first of the age of reason. He was the last of
the magicians."
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