[FRIAM] A deranged circle of hell

Pieter Steenekamp pieters at randcontrols.co.za
Fri Jun 6 00:12:04 EDT 2025


Wow, that's quite a dark view of the future with the capitalists running
the show!

I just want to repeat what I said before — nobody knows the future. And we
also don’t know what will happen if we try different policies now.

Maybe I am living in a bubble, and maybe I’m totally wrong — but I’m
honestly glad that my view of the future is still bright.

I’m not saying capitalism is perfect. Like most things, it has good and bad
sides. I found an interesting study (
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s42087-018-0034-6) that shows
this quite nicely: "The Impact of Advanced Capitalism on Well-being". It
says that capitalism brought a lot of good things — freedom, health,
comfort — but also brought problems like stress, insecurity, and inequality.

On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 at 00:12, Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net> wrote:

> What Naomi Klein says. 100%. "Klein" means small in German but Naomi
> thinks big:
>
> "The reason that we’re in a deranged circle of hell here, is that we’re
> very deep in the project. There’s not much to sell off; there’s not much
> left to privatize; there’s not much left to deregulate. And the effects of
> all of their earlier successes mean that we are in a very volatile state.
> Whether it’s our Earth systems in the face of climate change, or how
> financialized and shock-prone our economy is. [...] But now, capitalism has
> entered a radical and apocalyptic phase. There is no utopian vision in any
> of this. Instead, there’s a final battle. And this is where it gets really
> dark. The people who are advancing this agenda are also building their
> luxury bunkers and their spaceships to Mars. They don’t believe that there
> is a future. These people believe history is ending, literally. It’s end
> times! Get onto your rocket ship, or get into your golden city in the sky.
> And that is distinct."
>
>
> https://archive.ph/2025.05.04-140732/https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/naomi-klein-trump-musk-thiel-oligarchs-climate-science-1235330780/
>
>
> -J.
>
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