[FRIAM] reasoning

Frank Wimberly wimberly3 at gmail.com
Mon Jun 30 18:19:10 EDT 2025


As for teachers who barely understood.what they were teaching...

At Carnegie Mellon the guy who usually taught digital signal processing was
on sabbatical, the guy who taught it when the first guy wasn't available
was just made director of the Robotics Institute.  I had mentioned a desire
to teach so they decided I should do it.  I said "but I never took that
course."  The RI guy said,  "You'll do fine. It's just math."  The course
was for about 40 MS and a few PhD students in EE.  The text was by
Oppenheim and Schafer.  As I read it I wondered where the theorems and
proofs were.  Long story short, with help from a control throry professor
who was available to answer my questions it went OK.  I'm sure most of the
students knew I was a beginner.  On the student evaluations I got 3.2 out
of 4.

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Frank C. Wimberly
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On Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 3:07 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

> IDK. I can't help but wonder if a walk through a reasoning process like
> this would have helped me at 17 or so, fresh off geometry, trig, algebra,
> etc and headed into calculus. Complex numbers were largely opaque, despite
> some exposure. I don't think they clarified until college. Add in the
> ability to raise the temperature parameter, iterate a couple times, and it
> may well have been helpful ... more so than my "teachers" who barely
> understood what they were teaching and my calculus teacher who seemed to
> believe she could telepathically push things into my head.
>
> But I *definitely* think a few breaks in the reasoning to play with the
> dog or argue about whether pineapple or anchovies belong on pizza would
> have helped me pay attention longer. >8^D
>
> On 6/30/25 11:25 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> > Blah, blah, blah.  He should have stopped at e^(i pi) + 1 =0
>
> On 6/30/25 11:25 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> > So conscientious!   There was nothing about being hungry or wanting to
> play with the dog.
>
> On 6/30/25 1:05 PM, Santafe wrote:
> > wow.  Disingenuous performative much?  Who programs these things?  That
> level of smarm is malicious in and of itself.  Having just watched the
> thing on Alex Karp and who is running “things” these days.
> >
> >> On Jul 1, 2025, at 3:02, glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Inference was running slowly. So I decided to see if the GPU was
> actually working. It wasn't. So I had to shut everything down and restart
> the container. Then to test, I thought I'd ask Qwen3 a simple reasoning
> question. The attached is the result.
> >>
> >> OMG. Please think more quietly. I feel like I'm at the pub sitting next
> to one of those super talkative people who just get worse as they drink.
> >>
>
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