[FRIAM] DeepSeek, there's bs, and then there's bs
Gillian Densmore
gil.densmore at gmail.com
Mon Mar 10 16:57:45 EDT 2025
Well the first redflag is that lady goes to a fortune teller.
On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 9:35 AM steve smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
>
> Deepseek needs a "Yarrow Stalk" Interface so it could be a comprehensive
> interpreter of the I Ching. Consistent with a couple of thousand years of
> Chinese practice.
>
> Then cloak the whole thing in a "science" mantle via Leibniz and binary
> arithmetic.
>
> davew
>
> Maybe a toggle to allow for "ancestors' finger-bones" - osteomancy, or
> even haruspicy or extispicy? What is a good introspective divination
> without the whiff of hot steaming entrails?
>
> What little consultation i've made with LLM's related to my own I Chingery
> has been almost exclusively disappointing. I enjoy the idiosynchrasies of
> my Wilhelm-Baynes translation but am constantly aware of the intejection of
> a German (language/culture) cum English (language-culture) translation from
> a somewhat pick-and-choose compilation not unlike the myriad
> pick-and-choose compilations known as the various Ibrahamic texts most know
> as their "one true Bible" ("if it aint king james, it aint bible -
> hooah!").
>
> I'm far from a bible scholar myself, but enjoy the fact of now holding 4
> different copies of 4 different variations (all 20th century) with minor
> read-wear and markings from the original owners (one each from my parental
> lineages), the others from strangers. I don't seek "wisdom" there, but
> maybe some "perspective"?
>
> It does better with haiku, especially when reminded to relax any thought
> of matching (western) syllable count. I attribute this to the very
> constrained nature of the expression (large handful of words and the
> reflection on nature, seasons, a turn, etc.), it is easier *for me* to find
> patterns in the patterns it interpolates/extrapolates from it's myriad
> training examples...
>
> But as with any Oracle, the "wisdom" is not in the casting or the
> reference text itself but in the whole context...
>
>
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