[FRIAM] MUsk + trUMP's = MUMPS

Nicholas Thompson thompnickson2 at gmail.com
Sun Mar 16 18:51:59 EDT 2025


These contributions, interesting In their own right , constitute the most
egregiously bent thread that has ever been foisted on friam.  Am I being
rebuked for offering lame Political commentary, or are your guys just
clueless?


On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 3:18 PM steve smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:

>
> It seems to me they haven’t this through so good.  Thousands of NIH, NSF,
> and DOE funded scientists out on the international market.  Add to that
> reduced regulation on advanced scientific equipment and services.  Augment
> with a general sense of doom and self-interest and alienation from their
> country of origin.   Sounds like a recipe for foreign-based companies to
> scoop them up, if not other governments.   I won’t suggest particulars, but
> I think it is obvious how this could result in bad outcomes.
>
> My molecular biologist daughter is in the breach/sights of this
> nonsense.   She dedicated her career to 3rd-world focused virology (flavi
> like West Nile, Dingue, Zika) and is now faced with the triple-whammy of
> reduced funding/interest in third-world problems, reduced *health* funding,
> and the spirit that suggests as a woman in science she might somehow have
> gotten her funding through DEI biases.    She is not a candidate for
> "defecting" to China or Russia in this context but has been made crazy by
> watching her mid-career colleagues defect from academic research to
> profit-focused big pharma.   She got pulled off Flavi's to chase Coronas
> for a year or more because her institution had more  funding than they
> could spend and her funding was a little more fungible...    I think she
> can (probably) hang in there through the current storm (years) but not
> clear and it might actually be better for her (career) to move to a
> European Institution (though I don't know if that is even possible given
> what EricS suggested about demand/supply.
>
> After the fall of the Soviet Union, I participated in a brief project
> reviewing US State Dept proposals by (former) Soviet scientists seeking an
> alternative to becomeing rogue nuclear scientists for who knows?    Seems
> like we are about to have our own problem of that nature?
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