[FRIAM] intgegration

[Marcus Daniels]

I admit I was musing there might be higher level conserved constructs, like ones for infatuation.
Things that humans take seriously, but might not amount to much.  

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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen
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Right. But what's missing, what makes it a fallacy, is the lack of an estimate for that "decent chance" ... along with any details about the encoding mechanism. Even with common ontogenic pathways, we have to consider neuropolasticity and its limits. Dave's reference to lesions "eliminating" some function or another have to reference neuroplasticity even if only to eliminate it as a possibility. If it's true that some relatively large percentage of the population has mirror capability across the hemispheres, then burning/vibrating lesions on one side may or may not eliminate the function (controlling for the bilateral/mirrored population).

To be clear, I'm not doubting that such compositions *can* be done. I'm only objecting to the confidence with which we assert them. The world is full of mansplainers telling us they know what's going on and to simply trust them. Pffft. As a natural born citizen who's unlikely to be deported, I feel OK challenging such mansplaining. 8^D

On 3/26/25 11:32 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> My understanding is that neural architecture for things like hearing and vision follows a common developmental trajectory if there aren’t faults like the cochlea being damaged.
> An image of a circle would have a decent chance of having a similar encoding in different people, but a picture of a dog maybe not so much.
> 
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> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2025 11:00 AM
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> But ... again:
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> "predictive modeling on short datasets acquired in single patients"
> 
> We're not *composing* the individuals into groups, as Dave (and McGilchrist) seem to be doing. We're modeling individuals off data taken from individuals. I'm a bit confused that I have to point this out.
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> On 3/26/25 8:28 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>> This comes to mind..
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>> https://news.berkeley.edu/2023/08/15/releases-20230811/
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>> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen
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>> This is the driver for my doubt. Last I paid attention, the inter-individual variation for activation circuits swamped the intra-individual variation. So within one person, we might be able to make reliable predictions. But this idea that "regions of the brain" are activated in the same way, for the same tasks, across all (or most) people is suspect. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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>> On 3/25/25 2:52 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>>>    Can Steve’s training read my mind?  That’s my guess – we’re all sort of the same with the same kind of encoding and decoding mechanisms.
>>>
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