[FRIAM] This morning's hailstorm

Tue May 6 19:11:10 EDT 2025

NST

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> I would love to see a map of your topography.   Some SW you get is 
> actually E in origine, or even NE.  Cold dense air comes around the 
> bottom of the Sangres, and then flows northward in the canyon.

<https://www.topozone.com/new-mexico/santa-fe-nm/city/otowi/>

https://www.topozone.com/new-mexico/santa-fe-nm/city/otowi/

Hereya go!   the highway you see (NM502) cross E/W at the river (otowi 
bridge) is just south of Buckman Mesa (6000' crown, opposite 6000' White 
Rock Canyon area) above 5500' riverbed.   My home is between the arroyo 
just north (100m) of 502 which is fed by what you see as 3 (dry) 
tributaries.  The pueblo (village) is about 1 mile NE of that location, 
just off the map thumbnail, the solid blue ine being acequias fed from 
the pojoaque river and the rio grande itself.

The next two arroyos NE of us feed to the RG not the Pojo which does not 
affect our surface but likely recharges our (very shallow) aquifer....  
this all relevant to the water project trying to feed everything from 
San Ildefonso to Nambe to Tesuque from these infiltration wells "under" 
the RG  with only a little input from other deep wells up stream in the 
Pojoaque basin.   The ugliness of it includes that the water (rights) 
for much of this is water pumped over the continental divide near Chama 
from the San Juan tributary to the Colorado.   John Wesley Powel is 
rolling over in his poorly adapted wooden rowboats...

I do (anecdotally) remember/believe that this time of year, our weather 
is alternatively coming up from the gulf and from the west coast and the 
hot-dry we often experience through June (or lately longer) is a 
face-off between the two sources of energy/moisture which breaks 
(eventually, usually) to give us our monsoons entirely from the Gulf of 
MexiAmericaTrumpCo).

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> image.png
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> For comparison with abq, look at this sounding from the big bend 
> area.  That whole area where the blue line is to the right of the red 
> line is CAPE , energy available for convection.  I haven't looked at 
> the forecast yet, but I guess I am just as happy I am not in STX  this 
> afternoon.  If you look at the wind vanes, there seems to be ample 
> directional and velocity sheer.
>
> image.png
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> So here is the warnings plot for today.
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> image.png
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> And here is the key
> image.png
> Apparently tornados on the ground atm east of WACO
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> */ Gotta stop!!!!!!!!!!!!
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> */N ick/*
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> On Mon, May 5, 2025 at 1:32 PM Nicholas Thompson 
> <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     so, as the Chief Weather Nerd on the list,  I thought I  ought to
>     be able to say something about this morning's hail storm.  I can't
>     really.  I can regale you with this morning;'s skew-T diagram from
>     ABQ which would tell us something if we understood it.
>
>     image.png
>     Notice that there is some CAPE and that and that most of it is
>     above the freezing level.  I send this along in the hope that I
>     will entrap others in guessing what these things mean. Notice that
>     the the airmass in the top half of the atmosphere seems quite
>     different with strong sw winds, low dewpoints, and a cap.
>     Here is a  surface map for this morning:
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>     image.png
>
>     --The dry line is pretty well developed in southern NM, but very
>     diffuse up where we are, so I don't think that's playing much of a
>     role.
>
>     To get a sense of the big picture,look at this radar mosaic.
>     https://radar.weather.gov/region/conus-large/standard
>
>     And then compare it in your mind to this 500 mib chart.  Wierd.
>     image.png
>     I really wish we had a proper meteorologist on this list.
>
>     Talk about complexity.,
>
>     N
>
>     Nicholas S. Thompson
>
>
>
> -- 
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology
> Clark University
> nthompson at clarku.edu
> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson
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