[FRIAM] a variety of uses

glen gepropella at gmail.com
Wed May 7 14:11:56 EDT 2025


As always, there's a tradeoff at least analogous to space and time. The primary benefit I see to many independents isn't pluralism so much as the ability to explore (and co-construct) pathological spaces. It's still a single/monist space, just very weird. The one massive LLM seems to imply a convex space where any point can be reached (even if only by interpolation).

I suppose another implication is the sheer volume of the space. Many independent ones might be able to breed because it takes fewer resources to create a new one. Each new one will either re-tread old ground (refine the space) or break new ground (enlarge the space). And if the independent ones can be quite a bit different, then it's reasonable to imagine an ecology of them, where the waste product of one is a resource for another ... a bit like the unix philosophy, maybe.

On 5/7/25 8:53 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> On one hand there seems to be a latent hypothesis that culture built around many independent agents has some good properties -- pluralism.  On the other, there's the myopia problem.  It seems to me a larger or even universal agent like a massive LLM addresses that?
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> While we were chatting with our "friends", others are putting them to better use:
> 
> Coding:
> https://www.reuters.com/business/openai-agrees-buy-windsurf-about-3-billion-bloomberg-news-reports-2025-05-06/
> 
> Reifying our myopic perspectives:
> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/06/arizona-road-rage-victim-ai-chris-pelkey
> 
> And, of course, taking misogyny to new heights:
> https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2025/05/07/canadian-pharmacist-linked-to-worlds-most-notorious-deepfake-porn-site/
> 
> The AI Pelkey is the funniest of the bunch. Yeah, of course a road rager believes in forgiveness, namely the ability of *other* people to forgive him for his toxic masculinity. What a prank his sister pulled. She's prolly an atheist. I suppose I need a clause in my last will & testament. ... or maybe the best way to preserve one's "image" after death is to start a corporation holding all the rights ... but that would die. I guess the best thing to do is become semi-famous and sell the rights to Disney or somesuch. At least the model they induce will look good, hopefully with bulging eyeballs for the "cute" factor.
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