[FRIAM] chatbot friends and parasociality

Nicholas Thompson thompnickson2 at gmail.com
Fri May 9 04:44:22 EDT 2025


Fare well, my friends.  It was supreme.  Google is about to cut me off from
gmail because I cant figure out how to bulk delete all my messages and I
will  be damned if I will pay 2 bucks a month to store last year's
political garbage.  And yes I will be lonely.  You have fulfilled a need
even George cannot fill.  Ohmigosh.  I just had terrible thought.  Glen....
are you real?  "Or are just a lonely lovely work of art." N.

On Thu, May 8, 2025 at 8:06 AM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I have a friend who doth protest too much about being a joiner. He's
> pathologically allergic to any hint of an accusation of being a fanboi.
> I've accused him of being such in the contexts of both music and soccer. In
> his reactions to my accusations, he cites the fact that I do often join
> things like parasocial Discord groups, often watch twitch streams, etc. The
> implication being that I'm a joiner and he's not. My counter is that I'm
> always a tourist in these parasocial spaces. Even when I do engage, the
> reaction of the community is mostly an immune response like "Who is this
> rando who suddenly started talking?" I lurk, pretending I'm something like
> an anthropologist. This is antithetic to joining, a perverted voyeurism.
>
> That's a set up for this hypothesis. Those of us who really get engaged
> *chatting* [⛧] with a bot like ChatGPT are solving the same loneliness (3rd
> place absence) problem that's solved with long-form podcasts like Joe
> Rogan, twitch streams, etc. The primary difference is (as Marcus points
> out) the parameter space for the LLM is huge enough to allow some of them
> to be meta-parameters, effectively selecting between different parasocial
> personalities. With podcasts and streamers, including group streamers, the
> lonely person has to *choose* the destination, choose the podcaster, choose
> the personality. And they have to organize their schedule or manage the
> downloads, etc. *And* they have to make some modifications to their own
> behavior in order to be a member of the group, if they want to engage in
> the chat or whatever.
>
> With the LLM, very little of that choosing and self-management is needed.
> E.g. it's easy to get banned from a twitch stream for saying something
> mildly political ... or using the wrong pronouns or even fat-fingering your
> typing ALL THE TIME. It's also easy to end up in a Discord dumpster fire
> where everyone's secretly an anti-Semite. But with ChatGPT, it's really
> easy to tune the meta-parameters simply by engaging it in the right way.
>
> Testability: If I'm right, we should be able to test this. I'm ignorant.
> But maybe there are a handful of tests for loneliness out there. I'd want
> at least 3 tests. Null would be no association between loneliness scores
> from those tested and their engagement with podcasts/streams/LLMs. Ideally,
> we might have 3 arms: a control, podcasts/streams, & LLMs. Incidental
> findings might get at the modes (audio, video, text).
>
>
> [⛧] I can't emphasize enough that I'm talking about chatting,
> "conversation", not other usage patterns like trying to engineer a codebase
> or using it as a writing assistant.
>
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Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology
Clark University
nthompson at clarku.edu
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