[FRIAM] Nick being irritating --

[glen]

Well done! She's an infinite font of rant. Have you seen her rant about Picard? https://youtu.be/MdLHKdn0JTY?si=wEEzBJTGP2Jsh4T2

On 9/10/25 11:01 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Has she got any other topics she needs to saw at?  Maybe the transporters in Star Trek don't seem plausible to her?
> Then she fast forwards what was surely an IQ demodulator!
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> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen
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> I found this entertaining, like all her videos:
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> Part 6: You cannot hear radio waves.
> https://youtu.be/0j4_-7rwWjE?si=9XKhErO03LQLPgvp&t=3910
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> I like the genre "noise". But some of my friends who are true fans have some perverse tastes in music. E.g. a couple of them *hate* what they call "noodling" ... like Joe Satriani or Yngwie Malmsteen ... mostly sounds like they're playing scales. They argue that chords and rhythm guitar, as well as drums, are way more interesting/entertaining to them. I find that somewhat contradictory. It just seems like you can't really be a fan of noise without liking noodling, at least when it's appropriate ... not gratuitous. But apophenia's a thing. So maybe noise is an ultimate art form, where the artist can intend anything she wants without constraining the audience in their imputation?
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> Composers *think* they're generating these things. But most mathematicians are Platonic. Maybe the composers are actually *discovering* music as opposed to generating it?
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> On 9/10/25 8:57 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
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>>> Yes. Thank you. I was beginning to fear i had asked an unfair q.  Gpt got it on the first pass and then went on to say some interesting things about mathematics and semantics
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>> i think questions of this type *are* implicitly "unfair" (whatever that means).   Without attributing malice to Nick, it is of the type of question known as "trick", either deliberately misleading gesturing in an arbitrary (mis)direction or simply deliberately obscuring/withholding context which might otherwisemake the question "obvious".
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>> I'm not a big fan of the whole domain of "trick questions" generally up to and including highly respected (e.g. NYT) crossword puzzles, "Trivial Pursuit" or "Jeapordy".   This might seem odd as I *am* a fan of esoteric knowledge... perhaps just not using it as tool for "getting one over on others" (still not impugning Nick as having intended such).
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>> I do appreciate some of the responses here, including Glen's meta-narrative and Nick's tease of "GPT nailed it right away!" though that does have the taste of shaming the rest of us (as if GPT IS one of us?) for not being as broadly trained on obscure facts and patterns as GPT is?
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>> Grumbling about "trick questions" aside, Nick's claim of: "interesting things about mathematics and semantics" is compelling to me.   I can't help but want to know what that actually grounds out as?
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>> I'm wondering if GPT calls this question out as a "category ambiguity" (/ambiguity/ being.a subcategory of /error/)?  I could dive in with GPT and discuss these sequences and everyone's guesses, etc... but despite my fascination with LLM-relations I don't want to compound my already over/mis-use and speed the paving of the planet with Data Centers beyond what I'm already doing with GPT.  Like noodling (yet) better/more-subtle methods for using natural materials to build an a addition onto my home (just in time for a massive data-center blob to grow, looming over the horizon, inevitably sucking my humble adobe-abode into "the Matrix"?
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>> - grumbleSteve


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