[FRIAM] Despite my betterr judgement I don't know who else to ask

Thu Aug 27 16:12:07 EDT 2026

Yes, that is the part I understood. But it seemed like they thought someone
on the list should be able to write a... I guess a computer program to... I
guess to fix that... somehow...

I get the need to vent frustration sometimes... but was there an actual
serious ask? Is the request for someone to try to brute-force hack gmail on
her behalf, or something worse?

Or was it just a semi-coherent all-caps "old-man yells at clouds" meme?

Best,
Eric

<echarles at american.edu>

On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 9:40 PM Stephen Guerin <stephen.guerin at simtable.com>
wrote:

> it looks like Gil was locked out of a secondary Gmail account:
>
> gork.skoal at gmail.com
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> On Mon, Aug 24, 2026, 4:07 PM Eric Charles <eric.phillip.charles at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'll be honest... I'm not sure I found the big-text emails all that
>> coherent. What I gathered is that you lost access to a gmail account, which
>> I understand can be insanely frustrating. But clearly you have access to
>> the gmail account you are using to email this list.
>>
>> What I'm not sure about is what you think any of us can do about it. Are
>> you demanding that someone here write a program to re-hack your email? If
>> so, that's pretty far from anything my Ph.D. had anything to do with, and
>> even if I could do that, I'm not sure I'd be inclined to discuss the
>> problem in a fairly public forum.
>>
>> Best,
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 10:20 AM Gillian Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good morning Steve, 99% of the time I am 100% onboard with me(or anyone
>>> else) to keep it... middle of the road. And a big Mea Culpa for the many
>>> times that's been a issue.
>>> This one time it's entirely as writing thing for my voice. That's why I
>>> wanted to warn people that'd have (some censored because..just the right to
>>> do) and still have, that voice to convey throught text. Because until the
>>> web develops more of that (with filters), because even as a style choice:
>>> no one wants there boss getting a WWF replay at lol.
>>> And man thank also so much..
>>>
>>> It...means, the world, you've done what other failed at: just read and
>>> listen. That's all I wanted. But it'salso  not fair to have a
>>> arrogant company like google to steel my memories.:( I am just desperate
>>> for more peoplelike you at least read, and listen
>>> I have tried man.
>>> The forums have blocked me
>>> Youtubers that know the stuff: radeo silence.
>>> I have to have my memories and that drives contents ripped out of
>>> googles posesion, by any means necessary. And I do mean. ANY means.
>>> Well legal routs are dwindling, and I will never ever let this go, not
>>> ever.  I refuse to believe people with all there experience here can not
>>> help. I suspect. just suspect. for now. That is more disgusting: unwilling
>>> to help
>>> Here's the dagger CO  me.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 8:04 AM Stephen Guerin <
>>> stephen.guerin at simtable.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gil,
>>>>
>>>> I understand your frustration and have experienced it myself. The list
>>>> probably is unable to help your challenges with restablishing your identity
>>>> with Google or any corporate or govnernment system.
>>>>
>>>> You do hae identity here, which is established through relations in the
>>>> network with me, your father and your others in town who know you
>>>> physically or through social links. If you were an anonymous member on the
>>>> list, your messages would have been first throttled for pre approval or
>>>> removed. On and off list I have asked you to tone down the language and
>>>> venting on the list mainly for folks on the list who don't know you.
>>>>
>>>> At a different level, we are thinking very concrelely on how identity
>>>> works, webs of trust which is becoming esp important in the era of AI and
>>>> the early promises of the decentralized web. And we think it goes beyond
>>>> self-soveign identiy and to identity that is relational first. Of course
>>>> this doesn't help your most immediate issues with Google.
>>>>
>>>> You are in the top percentage of internet users that may be able to
>>>> help develop and test decentralized hosting of our data and intel intel and
>>>> identity management. eg you are comfortable installing your own local
>>>> servers and warez. We may hit you up to help in the near future.
>>>>
>>>> Love you, and tone it the F$%k down ;-)
>>>>
>>>> -Stephen
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>>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 6:22 AM Gillian Densmore <
>>>> gil.densmore at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> NIB:
>>>>> What: me goatsed, somehow "hackers" (script kiddies i'd wager):  have
>>>>> stolen my google account at: gork.skoa at gmail.com
>>>>> That one used for forums and basically where it's slop and spam.
>>>>> the problem for the only and last time. Read and  ask me or owen AMA.
>>>>> I will not repeat my myself beyond questions ok.
>>>>> somehow between all of googles pathetic fancy security bullshit. Me
>>>>> having one of the code generator authenticator things blah blah. I had been
>>>>> up to then using lastpass.
>>>>>
>>>>> The timeline
>>>>> Downloading music off of youtube with a
>>>>> opensoruced appcalled parabolic. (lounge music):
>>>>> Got kicked off line
>>>>> Checked comcast
>>>>> tried to log in
>>>>> and could not
>>>>> i am on android:
>>>>> I tried first last pass's authenticator that failed so did googles
>>>>> authenticator, (just incase I misread)
>>>>> I tried to clear the cache of Last Pass's Authenticator  and reinstall
>>>>> (failed)
>>>>> I tried to clear the cache of  Googles authenticator then tried to
>>>>> reinstall it.
>>>>> (nothing)
>>>>> I have tried literally all the ways I can try:
>>>>> passwords
>>>>> go to there "help" forum (just get ignored, like here) and they only
>>>>> link the shit google offers and there are loads of threads of how this is
>>>>> where gmail is pathetic: it assumes all kinds of stuff I guess, and they
>>>>> fail miserably: see also:
>>>>> the exact same problem
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1pa4qza/my_account_is_being_held_hostage/
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1v8lt93/gmail_got_hacked/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not care how. I just am now: demanding this gets unfucked.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 6:00 AM Gillian Densmore <
>>>>> gil.densmore at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I really like i've presented two real world problems...and crickets.
>>>>>> Did everyone forget apply there fancy PHDs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linking the same failed things does not help me in anyway shape or
>>>>>> form. And frankly it comes across as a slight and insult for someone to
>>>>>> then go off onto some incoherent something,while there's a _real_ problem
>>>>>> that you socalled PHD's with all kinds of programing skills and a very real
>>>>>> applied fuckery from a god damn secruity failure.
>>>>>> So once again
>>>>>> From the top
>>>>>> One of my google acounts: goatse'd between god knows what and who
>>>>>> knows what about 2 weeks ago and since thenI have been bashing my head
>>>>>> agains the same fucking wall of trying to get people to help me beyond a
>>>>>> link I have said 9999 times I have tried all those things. I now need some
>>>>>> help with where the hell go to for real actual help:
>>>>>> Is it a lawyer?
>>>>>> Is it a ghost?
>>>>>> A white hat?
>>>>>> Someone named tod
>>>>>> Who
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> and where
>>>>>> That will get me some god damn traction on my problem do I contact.
>>>>>> Once I know that. I will happily let you people go back to what ever it was
>>>>>> that Jofr guy posted.
>>>>>> No I will not StFU untill this problem has all hands, actually
>>>>>> helping wich is what i have been SCREAMING  for and will not StFU about
>>>>>> until this problem is fixed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 4:26 PM Gillian Densmore <
>>>>>> gil.densmore at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that's...the problem literally nothing at google works. -_-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 10:08 AM jofr <jofr at cas-group.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would try to contact Google support or follow the guidelines on
>>>>>>>> the official help pages. Good luck
>>>>>>>> https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/7682439?hl=en
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>>>>> From: Gillian Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Date: 8/12/26 5:51 PM (GMT+01:00)
>>>>>>>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>>>>>>>> friam at redfish.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [FRIAM] Despite my betterr judgement I don't know who else
>>>>>>>> to ask
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> google:
>>>>>>>> someone or something has hijacked my account
>>>>>>>> -despite 2fa (that's actually being a ******** problem)
>>>>>>>> -despite a software passkey hack (see above)
>>>>>>>> -despite lastpass (getting to that ****** in the ******** in a
>>>>>>>> second)
>>>>>>>> etc etc.
>>>>>>>> Problem
>>>>>>>> -about 14-16 days ago i was on youtube getting a bunch of music.
>>>>>>>> something happened and I was kicked off line and tried to log back in:
>>>>>>>> then i was ******* of several accounts and no ia m not going to
>>>>>>>> clean up or sanitize just how raw this going to be.
>>>>>>>> Level M warning intensity HEAVILY implied.
>>>>>>>> You have been warned.
>>>>>>>> In short:
>>>>>>>> me on youtube getting a bunch of music: got kicked out of an
>>>>>>>> account at
>>>>>>>> gork.skoal at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> alt account for forums and stuff
>>>>>>>> problems in no particular order:
>>>>>>>> -> password I have in cache wrong,
>>>>>>>> -> last pass: can't get in because
>>>>>>>> -> my authenticator stuff on my ****** google f'n  account
>>>>>>>> something from those keys wasn't working and I made the mistake of thinking
>>>>>>>> it was androids normal fuckin' bullshit so I just cleared it's cache and
>>>>>>>> tried to reinstall: I could not do that.
>>>>>>>> ->I've tried: litterally any fucking way to get throughg gmails:
>>>>>>>> "try this other" way all those none of that worked
>>>>>>>> -> I have tried there youtube reset in the vein hope that'd work to
>>>>>>>> get into my ********* google ******** drive. no luck there
>>>>>>>> -> I have tried the forums: that is the most usless fucking
>>>>>>>> bullshit it's just there to fuck you over and let me tell you it works;
>>>>>>>> -> they don't really help they just link you to a mega thread
>>>>>>>> posted here thing: oh google doesn't have: anything normal no otp, no text,
>>>>>>>> nothing zero zilch nada.
>>>>>>>> -> ok so youtube might be a back door it's the only thing they seem
>>>>>>>> ****** care about. so I tried that: you have some kind handle and
>>>>>>>> unchangeable url messy url shades of wordpress thing: Ok gave it to them, a
>>>>>>>> stupid ai chat bot etc.
>>>>>>>> -> not a fucking thing has worked
>>>>>>>> like I have told everyone that'll listen: i don't give a fuck about
>>>>>>>> the contents of my god dam inbox: it's motly spam. really I i just have got
>>>>>>>> to recover: travel pictures, some shit from world con, and family picture,
>>>>>>>> all kinds neet little things: meh amature quality  but...thee my *******
>>>>>>>> memories and I am disgusted with google. ok. I do not want a fucking thing
>>>>>>>> to do with them ever again.
>>>>>>>> i am begging anyone here and I i don't know what kind of bounty
>>>>>>>> you'll or pretty decently big boon I can offer so someone can help unfuck
>>>>>>>> this bullshit and get the fucking dick out of my fucking ass so I can get
>>>>>>>> my god damn files.
>>>>>>>> what the hell do I need to do to convince those
>>>>>>>> alabastered motherfuckers to unass my fucking shit I do not care about the
>>>>>>>> email Imean yeah, anyoing. but ayaya 67 it's friz, i ya know setting up a
>>>>>>>> fresh digital footprint: yeah I dig brotha' that's a vibe, and starting
>>>>>>>> fresh: why not, make it fun? ya know, but I will not relent on getting the
>>>>>>>> stuff that matters: my fucking loot, my precious memories in a torrent. on
>>>>>>>> local nas. I do not care what. I just have got to have them protected and
>>>>>>>> back. and are disgusted how fucked up this is being just to get my life
>>>>>>>> story back.
>>>>>>>> pls man someone help me. You can go thrugh my dad (owen) if ya'all
>>>>>>>> would rather even- I just have to have that stuft
>>>>>>>>
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