[FRIAM] Subjectivity as a spectrum

Steve Smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Sun Aug 30 13:55:48 EDT 2026


>> While my instinct/habit is to defer to an imagined idealized 
>> "objective reality",  I see no evidence to the contrary that we 
>> construct a highly agreed upon Model which eventually reaches the 
>> declared quality of "objectively real" when enough of (the right) 
>> people agree on all the nuances and claim to have verified the 
>> evidence on the table, up to and including discovering/presenting yet 
>> new evidence through repeatability under current standards of such.
>>
> For me this string of sentences unravels.  Do you know what you mean 
> by “objective reality”?  I don’t start out knowing what I would mean, 
> and find myself very cautious in throwing down for some gloss.  Does 
> it root as far down as you can go into the body?  If so, then that 
> rooting didn’t come from anybody’s intersubjectively-granted 
> permission.  Wouldn’t that count as “evidence”?  If not, what does the 
> term refer to?  If the higher-level models are just models, then you 
> aren’t granting them any impulse to behaving metaphysically, and you 
> didn’t need the extra term, no?
>
> Eric


I don't know if this is responsive but I feel as if  I *can* invert 
thisand see the Objective as "what is" and the inter/subjective as 
"speculative"?  Somewhat Necker-ish?



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