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On Aug 19, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com<mailto:gil.densmore at gmail.com>> wrote:

No. I agree. The way the do their videos is...yeah Max Hedroom 20 minutes into future. CyberPunk meets MadMax.  In a documentary about them they use a computer to read a script so as to protect the crew. I totally respect that. Part of that is because how they work is murky legal water. The other part was because  a few of their opts went sideways such as  calling out the ScienTologists for being a trolling cult...it went down hill pretty quickly. So now they (try to) stay more anonymous using stylised maxhedroomy videos with a computer reading text.
One of there was on some extremist  netoworking, and their leaders who they promissed to forward any and all info they could to the proper authortese. Now their taking on the extremists here. (some) of that info has lead banks, business etc to refuse to deel with those trolls. Their also taking down flags and statues of as Arnold Swartzinager put it "epicaly failed idiologies of xenophobia, rage, and hate."  Theyre members have been replacing those symbols with goofy art, or cleaning  the buildings and just removing the grafiti.

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Steven A Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com<mailto:sasmyth at swcp.com>> wrote:

Gil -

Thanks for the reference to Anonymous at YouTube.   You can tell I'm an old fogey by my irritable reaction to the style of their videos.  I felt like it was created by/for Max Headroom!

I HAVE watched one or two before (over a year ago?) with the same reaction.   I have a natural (Ithink) mixed reaction to their bluff/threats... what was that about contacting people in Lagos, Nigeria?  I didn't think Anonymous were prone to threatening IRL violence, but rather stayed with what I think of as "targeted vandalism" in cyberspace?

I'm also (still) confused about how there can ever be a single true voice for such a by-definition amorphous and distributed and ultimately defined only by self-definition group?    Some aspects of their nature/behaviour feels a bit too much like the alt.right they are (in this moment) going up against.

- Steve

On 8/18/17 2:02 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote
Anonymous has been posting videos on youtube sugesting people put aside the petty bickering. Making sugestion what things people can do to empower themselves. Their current call to arms is about (weirdly) love and joy and getting rid of washinton as it currently is and try for something like a Sociliast Republic/Technorocracy.
They're pretty tired of the sheer rage coming in and out of washington if the videos are anything to go by.

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com<mailto:marcus at snoutfarm.com>> wrote:
“While I feel very nervous about Twitter shutting down theDonald's personal account
so cavalierly, I can imagine how devastating it would be to his ego to not be able to
blurt out his nonsense at all times of the day or night without benefit of counsel by
his (admittedly highly flawed) inner circle/counsel.  Moving the same blurts to @POTUS
might be all it would achieve, which might enhance the absurdity yet more?”

While I like the idea of his continued self-sabotage, his pronouncements probably keep a part of the base stoked.
If his accounts were to go away, those folks might not have the initiative to replace that outlet with another.   And then they could get back to torturing animals or whatever it is they do all day.
The ACLU new policy to not support armed groups seems like a good step.   There are other groups like the SPLC that can tackle the haters.   I hope that if his rhetoric continues this way, and he repeatedly violates their terms of services, that they do shut him down completely.  He can go on Fox and Friends or something.
Marcus

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