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[Gillian Densmore]

No. I agree. The way the do their videos is...yeah Max Hedroom 20 minutes
into future. CyberPunk meets MadMax.  In a documentary about them they use
a computer to read a script so as to protect the crew. I totally respect
that. Part of that is because how they work is murky legal water. The other
part was because  a few of their opts went sideways such as  calling out
the ScienTologists for being a trolling cult...it went down hill pretty
quickly. So now they (try to) stay more anonymous using stylised
maxhedroomy videos with a computer reading text.
One of there was on some extremist  netoworking, and their leaders who they
promissed to forward any and all info they could to the proper authortese.
Now their taking on the extremists here. (some) of that info has lead
banks, business etc to refuse to deel with those trolls. Their also taking
down flags and statues of as Arnold Swartzinager put it "epicaly failed
idiologies of xenophobia, rage, and hate."  Theyre members have been
replacing those symbols with goofy art, or cleaning  the buildings and just
removing the grafiti.




On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Steven A Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:

> Gil -
>
> Thanks for the reference to Anonymous at YouTube.   You can tell I'm an old
> fogey by my irritable reaction to the style of their videos.  I felt like
> it was created by/for Max Headroom!
>
> I HAVE watched one or two before (over a year ago?) with the same
> reaction.   I have a natural (Ithink) mixed reaction to their
> bluff/threats... what was that about contacting people in Lagos, Nigeria?
> I didn't think Anonymous were prone to threatening IRL violence, but rather
> stayed with what I think of as "targeted vandalism" in cyberspace?
>
> I'm also (still) confused about how there can ever be a single true voice
> for such a by-definition amorphous and distributed and ultimately defined
> only by self-definition group?    Some aspects of their nature/behaviour
> feels a bit too much like the alt.right they are (in this moment) going up
> against.
>
> - Steve
> On 8/18/17 2:02 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote
>
> Anonymous has been posting videos on youtube sugesting people put aside
> the petty bickering. Making sugestion what things people can do to empower
> themselves. Their current call to arms is about (weirdly) love and joy and
> getting rid of washinton as it currently is and try for something like a
> Sociliast Republic/Technorocracy.
> They're pretty tired of the sheer rage coming in and out of washington if
> the videos are anything to go by.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
> wrote:
>
>> “While I feel very nervous about Twitter shutting down theDonald's
>> personal account
>> so cavalierly, I can imagine how devastating it would be to his ego to
>> not be able to
>> blurt out his nonsense at all times of the day or night without benefit
>> of counsel by
>> his (admittedly highly flawed) inner circle/counsel.  Moving the same
>> blurts to @POTUS
>> might be all it would achieve, which might enhance the absurdity yet more?
>> ”
>>
>> While I like the idea of his continued self-sabotage, his pronouncements
>> probably keep a part of the base stoked.
>>
>> If his accounts were to go away, those folks might not have the
>> initiative to replace that outlet with another.   And then they could get
>> back to torturing animals or whatever it is they do all day.
>>
>> The ACLU new policy to not support armed groups seems like a good step.
>> There are other groups like the SPLC that can tackle the haters.   I hope
>> that if his rhetoric continues this way, and he repeatedly violates their
>> terms of services, that they do shut him down completely.  He can go on Fox
>> and Friends or something.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
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