[FRIAM] IS: Does Complexity have a circularity problem WAS: Any non-biological complex systems?

gepr ⛧ gepropella at gmail.com
Sat Jun 10 06:47:57 EDT 2017


and mollusk shell formation. Though they don't really interact, they are deposited kinda like spray paint.  Coral deposition might also work well as a canonical example.




On June 9, 2017 9:20:37 PM PDT, Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>"strata in geology have *some* precedent (shears and folds) for that,
>but I
>can't think of a biological example"
>
>Epidermis, dermis, hypodermis?  They interact.
>
>Frank Wimberly
>Phone (505) 670-9918
>
>On Jun 9, 2017 10:12 PM, "Steven A Smith" <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
>
>> Vlad -
>>
>> I find your use/choice/settling-upon "lamina/laminae" seems very
>> motivated, though I can't articulate why.  I suppose because it has
>some
>> connotation related to concepts like "laminar flow" which is
>structurally
>> similar to the vulgar (your implication not mine) "layer" which
>connotes
>> the "laying down of" a series of membranes or strata.  I'm not sure I
>know
>> how to think about ply which seems to be derived from the world of
>> engineered "laminates", suggesting perhaps a small number (under 5?)
>and
>> engineered rather than "grown" or "evolved"?
>>
>> The idea of one lamina penetrating another is fascinating... it seems
>like
>> strata in geology have *some* precedent (shears and folds) for that,
>but I
>> can't think of a biological example, nor can I guess what you were
>trying
>> to achieve by developing methods for said penetration?

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⛧glen⛧



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