[FRIAM] A million tech jobs unfilled

Gillian Densmore gil.densmore at gmail.com
Sat Mar 4 18:42:59 EST 2017


Franks nailed it.

It's a combination of enormously large issues from what I can tell. Age is
a part of that.

I had one person tell me to my face they won't hire "special" people
(neither legal nor moral). Because and I quote "we don't want to spend the
time or money fixing their problems"

So as a resault I decided: screw this! I'm going to get my skills braud
enough so as I can do work I'd enjoy way more. As I said to steve just
because I might not have a head for coding. I can still be useful. And find
some parts of just knowings what's up is to cool and fun!

Someone needs to test things out(for example) or do simple things that
(hopefully) make things go smoother. As a concrete example in my last job
my main role was the dude that poked stuff, or brows forums possible
gremlins, and being an ear to bend. For that place, just as valuable a
thing to do as writing code.
For instance Win10 just launched, for what ever reason the one of founder
of the company just assumed it'd just install without snags and didn't
bother to check for gremlins people ran into,   Sufficed to say I weirld
like sinking my teeth into stuff (somehwat) like that.Or  simply see if
their might be a better way to tackle an issue. Like ERMG it's REALY nice
their's tools like plugins to help write CSS for wordpress. Or (sort of)
like Processing or ther Visual Programing aids like blocky) I simply don't
know why companies now value that dude that likes to know what's up and
enjoys using tools or poking at dragons as much as the did in the past..

@Age someone I'm working with has cautioned it's becoming a headache at
Google. Basically The Middle Manager doesn't see age (like I dun 40s ) as
good they see that person as "low energy" or not a "true alpha go getter"..
They think someone that's older that still eager to learn or  just older as
"out of touch with what their core metrix show"
Another side the coin with being two specialised are situations like NODE
(possibly eventually) filling a void that Ruby for Rails, and basically
anything that's not the new Katness and Sexy. Rub, or Python Or basic HTML
 (or any other tool) that's now considered legacy stuff

SOMEONE  needs to be gool ol' fationed grunt and skunk to nurse them along
till they can replaced. Or they might simply be a better choice for what
ever reason.

It just seems to me that over specialisation isn't a good thing. Their be
mad dragons their.

These companies complaining about not enough skilled workers are full of
something...



On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Agreed.
>
> For many of us on (in?) Friam age discrimination is another issue.  I have
> received emails from recruiters and even principals that say that they've
> seen my profile on LinkedIn and that I am a perfect match for a position
> they have.  They ask for my full resume (I have a CV) and, more often than
> not I don't hear back.  I have dates on the CV because I don't want to work
> where I'm not wanted.  In fact, lately when I get such a contact my reply
> begins, "First of all, you should know that I'm 73...". This avoids wasting
> time.  I have talked to a number of recruiters about these issues. Most
> agree that the problem is not that they don't think I'll be there long
> since neither will the 28 year-olds.  There is also a cultural problem. A
> few years ago I got a contract position in Albuquerque (remunerative) and I
> worked with several millennial or genXY software engineers. I got along
> well with them in general but one of the young women was constantly saying,
> "What the f*** is this s***?". That didn't really bother me but it seemed
> odd.  Actually, I'm somewhat ambivalent about this since, as my wife says,
> "Frank, if you get a job, you'll have to work.". I don't mind work but
> commuting etc...
>
> In the meantime, Hywel and are are enjoying learning de Rahm cohomology,
> etc with applications to gauge fields, gravity, etc.
>
> Frank
>
> Frank Wimberly
> Phone (505) 670-9918
>
> On Mar 4, 2017 3:36 PM, "Marcus Daniels" <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
>
>> *Owen writes:*
>>
>>
>>
>> *“*When I was hired breadth of knowledge, and ability to adapt was key.
>> Now it's sorta a form of impatience. I suppose it is because technology has
>> matured so much that you *can* search for more specific skills?”
>>
>>
>>
>> IMO that impatience is a lack of interest in the work itself.
>>
>> How do we (middle managers or HR) delegate this problem away, so we have
>> a simple pattern matching procedure instead of having to think and know
>> things about the problem domain.    A good reason to not hire someone is
>> because they are shallow and dumb, not because they don’t have some narrow
>> skill they could pick up in a week.
>>
>>
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
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