[FRIAM] !RE: A million tech jobs unfilled

[Gillian Densmore]

As far as I know google gets a bunch of money from their skunk systems.
addsense, and...
renting what they build to others. They get (for example) their WebBuilding
tools, and Google Pages, Brickly, Cloud, and their (popular?) Google IO
startup assist basically lets someone borrow their staff and hardware.
Google asks for at least 10-15% off the top and then another 5-8% per a
AcmeCo Microwave and Transmagrafier or what ever the place is building.
And as far as I know they give away some part of the code but not all of it
so their's a bit of fee to rent that as well.
Backup and other underhood systems have a small (onetime) fee etc

So they possibly don't worry about making much (if any) from somethings
(their OS is litterally free and somewhat OpenSource.) where as the email
is freeish but if you want more cloud space than 13-14 gigs they give away
it's 25? 30? a month and up for companies that need instant to the pixel
backups.  Etc.

As a concrete example they basically started  the now popular Niantic Labs.
who make very popular games. But those games keep tabs where you go so as
google (or anyone else) that's making AI, Maps, etc can get much better
 info.  They charged niantic a bit to get going rent their hardware and
staff.



On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> wrote:

> Kinda weird Google is lowest.
>
> Puzzle: How can the provider of the world's most popular phone OS not
> profit from it? Maybe they do but it is small compared to the rest of their
> work.
>
>    -- Owen
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> For comparison:
>>
>> Google PE > 30
>> Amazon PE > 170
>> Netflix PE > 330
>>
>> Frank Wimberly
>> Phone (505) 670-9918
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2017 10:37 AM, "glen ☣" <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps it's not beside the point at all.  P/E normalizes the price
>>> based on one frame of mind, which I suppose is whether you can make money
>>> off it.  Making money implies a time window and some sort of zero sum
>>> bucket of money (where P goes out and E comes in).  But a more objective
>>> (perspective invariant) normalizer might send an entirely different
>>> message, particularly one that includes the extent the company is leveraged.
>>>
>>> Regardless, from the little I know about it (2 friends who work there
>>> and a slew of interviews a decade ago), they have/had very little tolerance
>>> for constituents setting their own agenda.  My interactions with Google
>>> were drastically different.  They seemed willing to entertain literally
>>> _any_ idea (the overwhelming majority of which are selected against
>>> immediately, of course).  I chalked this up to their sources of money,
>>> which is a type/kind of liquidity.  If you have more ways of making money
>>> (selling products to rich hipsters vs. advertising to anyone), you'll be
>>> more willing to let the constituents try out their own pet project, build
>>> their own sub-org.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/15/2017 06:05 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
>>> > It's beside the point, but Apple has a low stock price.  PE < 17.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ☣ glen
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