[FRIAM] Whew!

Wed May 3 20:45:19 EDT 2017

Frank,

what is clear to me is that pre-K delivered by students and graduates
of the Harvard School of Ed (and equivalents) provides enormous
positive benefits.
This does not mean that pre-K delivered by graduates of NMHU (nor,
probably, any of the schools of ed in this state) will provide the
same benefits.
Also the nebulous definition of pre-K in the failed ballot initiative
would have allowed those with no college education or training to offer
"Pre-K" services.  What assurance would there be that this quality level
of "Pre-K" would have any benefits, let alone the "enormous" benefits
cited by Deborah?
davew

On Wed, May 3, 2017, at 04:33 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> My wife Deborah graduated from the Harvard Graduate School of
> Education having specialized in early childhood development.  She has
> made it clear to me over the years that the benefits of pre-K are
> enormous cognitively and socially.  Is that clear to everyone or would
> references be helpful?> 
> Frank
> 
> Frank Wimberly
> Phone (505) 670-9918
> 
> On May 3, 2017 4:18 PM, "George Duncan" <gtduncan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey, Merle, I don't remember forgetting where the money for this
>> campaign came from. According to the AP,>> 
>> Campaign finance reports show New York billionaire Michael Bloomberg
>> contributed $1.1 million to a pro-tax committee. The American
>> Beverage Association spent $1.3 million against the tax.>> 
>> Also, relevant is what organizations were for it and what
>> organizations were against? Again according to the AP,>> 
>> Spending by rival political committees pitted the American Beverage
>> Association and allied local businesses against soda-tax backers
>> including Bloomberg, teachers unions, the American Heart Association
>> and the Roman Catholic Church.>> 
>> Interesting allies to a "political mafia". 
>> 
>> Yes, we do need pre-K and now with this defeat I see no path towards
>> getting it.>> 
>> 
>> 
>> George Duncan
>> Emeritus Professor of Statistics, Carnegie Mellon University
>> georgeduncanart.com[1]
>> See posts on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram
>> Land: (505) 983-6895[2]  
>> Mobile: (505) 469-4671[3]
>>  
>> My art theme: Dynamic exposition of the tension between matrix order
>> and luminous chaos.>> 
>> "Attempt what is not certain. Certainty may or may not come later. It
>> may then be a valuable delusion.">> From "Notes to myself on beginning a painting" by Richard Diebenkorn.>> "It's that knife-edge of uncertainty where we come alive to our
>> truest power." Joanna Macy.>> 

>> 
>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Merle Lefkoff
>> <merlelefkoff at gmail.com> wrote:>>> You forget George, that the political Mafia that runs Santa Fe
>>> city government not only put together a stupidly doomed proposal,
>>> but also brought in outside money that MATCHED the amount of money
>>> brought in by corporate interests.  Some of you may remember that
>>> $250,000 of outside money also came into the Mayor's race after
>>> the City Council had passed legislation to insure a citizen-funded
>>> municipal campaign.  As it turned out, the Mayor would have won
>>> without the extra money that local power brokers brought in from
>>> outside.  Another loss for local democracy and getting money out
>>> of politics.  Cry the Beloved City.  Because we really really need
>>> pre-K.>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:29 AM, George Duncan <gtduncan at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:>>>> Anyone like to bet that we will now address these issues
>>>> "rationally" so that there will be either funding for Pre-K or
>>>> disincentives for sugary drinks? I will take the opposite side of
>>>> that bet.>>>> 
>>>> We now see the power of those corporate interests who will provide
>>>> the millions of dollars needed to defeat any tax proposal that
>>>> might hurt them. Some how I do not expect them to be funding Pre-K
>>>> education by any means. Also any new proposal to tax sugary drinks
>>>> will prompt their money to be put into opposition. Further note
>>>> what our Governor said in response to yesterday's defeat about the
>>>> public  mood to increase taxes.>>>> 
>>>> Yes, elitists may well think that Pre-K dominates cheap soda. And,
>>>> yes, elitists don't drink Coca-Cola and instead like Perrier water.
>>>> So District votes hardly surprising.>>>> 
>>>> Duncan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> George Duncan
>>>> Emeritus Professor of Statistics, Carnegie Mellon University
>>>> georgeduncanart.com[4]
>>>> See posts on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram
>>>> Land: (505) 983-6895[5]  
>>>> Mobile: (505) 469-4671[6]
>>>>  
>>>> My art theme: Dynamic exposition of the tension between matrix
>>>> order and luminous chaos.>>>> 
>>>> "Attempt what is not certain. Certainty may or may not come later.
>>>> It may then be a valuable delusion.">>>> From "Notes to myself on beginning a painting" by Richard
>>>> Diebenkorn.>>>> "It's that knife-edge of uncertainty where we come alive to our
>>>> truest power." Joanna Macy.>>>> 

>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net>
>>>> wrote:>>>>> Oh, and Elitism? Culturalism?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well the south side districts overwhelmly trounced it: 69% & 73%
>>>>> Even the most liberal districts were 50-50.>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>    -- Owen
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Owen Densmore
>>>>> <owen at backspaces.net> wrote:>>>>>> Voters smack down mayor’s beverage tax proposal
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/voters-smack-down-mayor-s-beverage-tax-proposal/article_3971faf0-2f9c-11e7-8374-532a52cd354f.html>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now maybe we can focus on health, pre-K, etc rationally rather
>>>>>> than tying them together idiotically.>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Quote:
>>>>>>> Opponents resisted the proposed tax as an unfair overreach by
>>>>>>> city leaders and not the best way to fulfill a recognized need
>>>>>>> for expanding access to preschool programs.>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Amen!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    -- Owen!
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>> President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy
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>>> Saint Paul University
>>> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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