[FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems?

Stephen Guerin stephen.guerin at simtable.com
Sun May 28 11:03:33 EDT 2017


Marcos writes;

> Depending on which J values are zero, there can one phase space or many
> independent phase spaces depending on how many disconnected components
> there are.


I agree with a small tweak.

Yes, the subgraphs would have their own independent phase spaces
(especially if topologies were dissimilar). Though, I would not call the
independent subgraphs components as they are no longer part of a larger
whole.  If the subgraphs are independent and not interacting you cease to
have one system. You have multiple independent systems each with their own
phase spaces.

I'll wrap with my position:

   - I gave three examples of non-biological complex systems based on
   Russ's initial question
   - Russ's additional criteria later in the thread are similar to
   distinguishing criteria for complex living systems vs complex non-living
   systems. This is an area of research I'm fascinated with and I encourage
   this line of discussion
   - If I need to use Russ's criteria, I can't think of a non-biological
   example. To me it's like asking for a non-biological example of a living
   system.
   - I disagree with Russ's claim that all complex systems must satisfy his
   criteria to be a complex system. It is too limiting.
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