[FRIAM] Stanford Prison Experiment

[Barry MacKichan]

One of my daughters took a course from him. He was an excellent teacher.

However, she cited another instance of him skating close to the edge, 
ethically speaking. So option 2 is weakened to some extent.

--Barry


On 16 Jun 2018, at 18:26, Bela Patkai wrote:

> This is quite interesting, but I'm not sure how to conclude this 
> story, so I've been pondering on the following options:
>
> 1. He lied, bad person!
>
> 2. One experiment (measurement) is no experiment, so what? Non-issue.
>
> 3. A large community of scientists were involved in one way or another 
> for decades! Science has a serious credibility issue.
>
> 4. Smart experiment! How long can a convenient truth hold its foot in 
> the door? Actually 4.7 decades - the research question is answered! 
> Great contribution!
>
> 5. It's typical that nobody talks about the real question, i.e. does 
> the uniform really make the jailor and to what extent? (I guess that 
> question is answered, but still, why not frame this as "model-A is 
> broken, use model-B"?)
>
> 6. Zimbardo is like 90 years old, bad timing!
>
> 7. Finally I understand the name of his "Heroic Imagination Project", 
> sounds like fun!
>
>
> Béla
>
>
>
>> On 14 Jun 2018, at 18.03, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Chatting with a recent psychology grad, I heard more qualification 
>> than I did yes and no.
>> Need more active doubt and wide-awake risk-taking than we need drama, 
>> IMO.   Good for her.
>>
>> On 6/14/18, 9:42 AM, "Friam on behalf of uǝlƃ ☣" 
>> <friam-bounces at redfish.com on behalf of gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>    The Stanford Prison Experiment was massively influential. We just 
>> learned it was a fraud.
>>    https://www.vox.com/2018/6/13/17449118/stanford-prison-experiment-fraud-psychology-replication
>>
>>    Damn.  Now I'm gonna have to go back to every time I've used this 
>> experiment rhetorically and figure out if it changes my argument. 8^)
>>
>>    --
>>    ☣ uǝlƃ
>>
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