[FRIAM] This is how the Japanese multiply. (Math, not biology)

[Frank Wimberly]

Some applied math is real math by my definition as is some CS.  Jon, Hywel
and I were reading Schutz on general relativity.  It was close to being
"real math"  but I was quite frustrated.  He talks a good deal about the
metric tensor but never really defines it.  As far as I can see it's
neither a metric nor a tensor according to the definitions I learned in
math classes.

Frank

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On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 10:06 PM Nick Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net
wrote:

> Yeah.  I am not on my “*R*eal” kick today.  “real” is good enough for
> me.  “real” in the sense of honorable, respectable, normative, proper,
> honest, genuine, true to itself, etc.  But on your definition, applied math
> wouldn’t be “real”, right?  CS wouldn’t be real math, either.  To me, math
> is “just” the development or use of formal systems to advance knowledge.
> On that understanding, the use of any kind of formal system to model a
> natural system is “real math.”  I take it you would disagree.
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> Nick
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> Nicholas S. Thompson
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> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
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> Clark University
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> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
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> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Frank
> Wimberly
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2018 6:23 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] This is how the Japanese multiply. (Math, not
> biology)
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> "Real" and "real math" are two different things.  My definition of real
> math is exposition of the form "definition, theorem, proof".  When you
> figure out what "real" means, let me know.
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> Frank
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> My memoir:
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> Phone (505) 670-9918
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> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 6:14 PM Nick Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net
> wrote:
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> What!???? How could any mathematics not be REAL!  FRANK!  Defend yourself!
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> NIck
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> Nicholas S. Thompson
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> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
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> Clark University
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> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
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> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Prof
> David West
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2018 5:52 PM
> *To:* friam at redfish.com
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] This is how the Japanese multiply. (Math, not
> biology)
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> I have a couple of books on "Vedic Math" - a large set of techniques for
> how to calculate. This technique was among them.  Showed the books to Frank
> once, he was not impressed, "not real mathematics."
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> davew
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> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, at 9:02 AM, Tom Johnson wrote:
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> https://www.facebook.com/637328420/posts/10156877698343421/
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