[FRIAM] Pondering the slang Adulting

Steven A Smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Wed Nov 14 11:14:46 EST 2018


I've always taken "the Troll" to be a species of Trickster... not always
comfortable, but often valuable.


On 11/14/18 7:39 AM, ∄ uǝʃƃ wrote:
> It's come to mean many things, but all along the lines of provocation.  Boghossian et al, for example, did a *great* job at provoking Wilson and Shaw and a host of other actual scholars into responding to their science fraud.  But it's important, to me anyway, to remember that trolling also encompasses behaviors like Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" and Socrates' treatment of Euthyphro.
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> So, the options you've offered, fishing or monster, is impoverished.  The village shaman is a better example.  Even if shamen/witches mostly use provocation to hypnotize and control the villagers [†], we can assume that some (perhaps small) percentage of shamen/witches are doing it for the good of the tribe, not just to grab a quick bite.
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> As I've posted before, here is my favorite defense of trolling:
>
>   How to make a nuisance of yourself in [usenet] news
>   http://web.archive.org/web/20070609085706/http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/eget/net.html
>
> Torkel's dead, but definitely not forgotten!
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> [†] Perhaps mostly in self-defense, since the physically or mentally abnormal people who didn't become holy people might be executed or exiled.
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> On 11/13/18 7:40 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
>> I have always wondered about "trolling".  Is it the monster under the bridge or the fisherman.  Or both?




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