[FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers
Gillian Densmore
gil.densmore at gmail.com
Thu Oct 11 14:23:17 EDT 2018
As to size vs speed?that's a great question!to be honest I'm curious as
well .
Size for me and as importantly as you point out finding things is important
as well.
Not to pry might help to know what you do mostly.
For example I am moving from a ton of computer gaming to auidiobooks and
watching pulpy fun to. And to do some audulting .
So being able to write thing is n Google's cloud or old school faxing
without a a d headache ocaiocioly Skype Google Hangouts. Etc is a big
thing.
Fir you if your big stuff is reasearch writing, and review then maybe a
large disk vs fast one might help.
Can't make good suggestions without knowing what you fo though.:-)😁
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 11:22 AM Nick Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net>
wrote:
> Thanks, everybody. I now think I understand what is happening: the demand
> for speed in hard disks has overtaken the demand for size. Or to put it
> another way, for most of you, you will gladly accept the added cognitive
> burden imposed by having two hard disks in return for the added speed
> provided by a smaller internal ssd.
>
>
>
> As to my present situation, I am beginning to have a Dark Suspicion. It’s
> just not right for somebody whose computer use is as primitive as mine to
> be using up so much HD space. And as fast as I clear space on my hard
> disk, it get’s used up again. I am wondering if some program isn’t
> gobbling up space fast as I can free it. I found about a gig of old
> I-tunes pod casts tucked away, and have been trying to beat I=tunes in to
> submission. Are there other places to look for misbehaving programs that
> are piling up garbage in large stinking plastic bags on my hard disk?
>
>
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
>
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
>
> Clark University
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Gillian
> Densmore
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:44 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers
>
>
>
> Nick these all sound like pretty good ideas. To me it seems like their's
> always some need to get a pretty good sized hard drive. FWIW I didn't guess
> right for my computer. I thought 1 terabyte would be plenty. I am wrong.
> As to the cloud. Yeah I don't know. For back up? It's pretty good. I just
> think it's about the right thing for the job.
>
> I don't know if anyone else has suggested this: ram; Windows eats
> surprisling large amount.
>
>
>
> Question: do you particularly need or really want to stay with a laptop?
>
> HP isn't all that good of a computer company. Just my experience it hasn't
> been all that good since...forever at least the 90's and really since the
> 80's I'd say.
>
>
>
> My brother (Tim) a while back got a think pad. At the time seemed to like
> it. I don't know what their like now. Anyone have some opinions their
> anygood still? I thought his wife
>
>
>
> The reason I suggest thinking about a desktop. Is it might be a lot less
> hastle to get a good hard drive and ram. Plus installing them is not at
> all straitforward even at a shop with a ton of equipment. experience. I
> have done it with a hand me down from owen(dad). But let me tell you on the
> apple it was not that straitward and seriusly had a few moments: Oh fuck
> please tell me that dropped screw didn't hork something up.
>
>
>
>
>
> I totally agree with the SSD(their really big thumb drives basically)..and
> I didn't know that a 500 gig one is about 90.. that's awesome !
>
> .
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 12:01 PM Roger Critchlow <rec at elf.org> wrote:
>
> I think getting the largest SSD you can afford is a good idea, 500G SSD
> internal drives are around $90, a terabyte is less than twice that. Get a
> laptop with a small SSD in the best technology and have someone swap in a
> bigger and badder drive.
>
>
>
> Just don't lose the laptop. My dad spilled orange juice into his laptop
> case once on a visit, never did find out why he was travelling with it. Or
> maybe you should just do that first and solve all your data storage
> problems up front?
>
>
>
> Micro SD cards are great, but I can't find any of mine other than the one
> that's plugged into my laptop. And the slots tend to be all connected with
> USB 2.0 buses last time I checked. Which I had to do by bench marking the
> same card in a USB 3.0 adapter vs the builtin reader slot, because no one
> specifies how the built ion SD card interface is provisioned.
>
>
>
> -- rec --
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>
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:42 PM Alfredo Covaleda Vélez <
> alfredo at covaleda.co> wrote:
>
> Marcus idea is good. During years I have been using a cheap Chinese SD
> card as main drive using LINUX OS running on an old tiny laptop which lack
> of a mechanical hard drive. I have just updated to a newer Linux
> distribution and I also installed Dropbox there, so I always bring my
> important files. These days you could buy 1024 GB SD for less than 50 US
> dollars.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
> wrote:
>
> If the issue is bulk, most laptops will accept these cards:
> https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820173374
>
> Marcus
>
>
> On 10/10/18, 11:31 AM, "Nick Thompson" <nickthompson at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks, everybody.
>
> In my world, hyperspeed is not a big deal. The big deal for this 80
> year old is cognitive burden. So a this point I have stuff on the hard
> drive, stuff on a 1t drive and stuff on Carbonite, and this, for me, is a
> ticket for disaster. So also is a system in which every where I go, I have
> to carry not only the laptop but a hard drive as well. The one thing
> eighty-year-olds don't need (as you will soon find out) is another thing to
> lose. SO, the obvious solution is to spring for a a machine with a huge
> SSD drive, on the theory that it is the last machine I will ever buy so
> what the hell.
>
> Is there some reason why that ISN'T the obvious solution? Is it just
> COST that has driven you all to have little boxes and wires sticking out of
> your laptops, or am I missing something here?
>
> I HATE to spend more than 1K for a computer. It seems a mortal
> injustice, an assault upon my mongrel puritan soul. But perhaps it's time
> to suck it up?
>
> The other kind of "suck it up" message you all might give me is to
> rationalize my digital storage so I don't need so much. But for the above
> mentioned reasons, I will need help to do that, in which case, members of
> the Local Church might suggest a Digital Storage Rationalization Consultant
> to help me straighten out the mess I have made.
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> Clark University
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On Behalf Of ? u???
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:33 AM
> To: FriAM <friam at redfish.com>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers
>
> You may already know this ... Because you're probably using that
> *thing* called Windows, in order to do this effectively, you have to pay
> attention to where programs are installed. Windows installers will try to
> put everything on your "C" drive. But they usually give you the option of
> installing it somewhere else. Given Windows' massive disk space
> requirements for Updates, I tend to keep only Windows (and the virtual
> memory page file) on the 1st drive and put everything else on the secondary
> drive(s).
>
> On 10/10/18 8:25 AM, Barry MacKichan wrote:
> > My guess is that your 460 GB drive is a spinning hard drive, and
> that the new computer has a solid state drive (SSD). This is a /good/ thing
> since the SSD drives are much faster. The prices on Amazon for 1TB drives
> are around $50 and the 2TB drives are close. My suggestion is to get the
> new computer, add a relatively humongous hard drive with a USB 3
> connection, and make some decisions about what you want almost instantly
> available, and what is merely almost instantly available.
> >
> > Better yet, buy two hard drives and start backing up regularly
> (there are programs to make that automatic).
> >
> > --Barry
> >
> > On 10 Oct 2018, at 2:25, Nick Thompson wrote:
> >
> > I was about to give up on my 460 Gig hd HP because [it was old
> > and] I was running out of disk space, only to discover that the
> standard machine offered by my university to replace it has LESS disk
> space. Wondering how people are storing stuff. Are the days of buying
> larger and larger hard disks and never making any decisions over? [sigh}
> Note that cloud storage is not an option to me for half the year. Are
> people buying terabyte sized USB drives and running software from them or
> telling some software to store to them? How’s that work?
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry to bother you with this. I know the rest of you have real
> > work.
>
> --
> ∄ uǝʃƃ
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