[FRIAM] On old question

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So ... Rosen's openness to material flow, closure to operational flow, allows *both* endo- and exothermic sub-systems.  But his (M,R)-systems focus on maintaining organization using energy-material harvested from the gradient, ignoring sub-systems that produce energy-material?

On 10/24/18 9:20 AM, Prof David West wrote:
> I am pretty sure that the questions you pose, and the ideas of people
> like Rosen, arise from a failure to recognize the qualitative difference
> among structures and therefore miss the essence of "organization."
> This, in turn is largely attributable to the fact that we enjoy a highly
> developed "science" of Entropy and Entropic Structuralism (Physics,
> Chemistry, Astronomy, etc.) but almost no equivalent science of
> Anentropy. Recombinant DNA and CRISPR are at the level  of alchemy in
> this regard. Sociology, Anthropology, Psychology, Ecology, etc. are, at
> best, aspiring to alchemy.
> pretentiously yours,


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