[FRIAM] do animals psychologize?

[Marcus Daniels]

Out of curiosity, does over-intervention concern apply to government behavior only?   One could imagine the same technology trends empower many groups and individuals.

On 9/14/18, 5:44 PM, "Friam on behalf of uǝlƃ ☣" <friam-bounces at redfish.com on behalf of gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

    Hm.  As usual, it depends on what you want to have happen, I suppose.  Educating a zealot who wants to kill everyone will only make them more capable of killing everyone.  If your desire is to avoid killing everyone, then the dogmatic group needs to be isolated or eliminated.  But my guess is that your (1) and (2) are never disjoint.  The isolation/elimination of the zealots is achieved, in part, through strong controls on the distribution of some kinds of info.  We do this, already in almost every arena ... even to the extent of putting good scientific content behind paywalls and/or restrictions on exporting "munitions" like encryption algorithms.
    
    The choice is still one of intervene or don't.  I, perhaps sadly, can't shake my libertarianism, which tells me to avoid intervention where possible.  There is no worse crime against the world than over-intervention.
    
    On 09/14/2018 04:36 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
    > I was thinking more of the 12 Monkeys example, more so than the current phenomena of gun violence.  If any dogmatic group can kill us all by downloading a nanotech kit, shouldn't either 1) they be educated, isolated, or eliminated with haste or 2) there be strong controls on distributing some kinds of information.    It seems to me #2 is unacceptable, but the more likely outcome.
    
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